Version: v0.7pre (using KDE 3.0.9 (KDE 3.1 RC1)) Installed from: compiled sources Compiler: gcc version 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease) OS: Linux (i686) release 2.4.19 The Boson unit editor gui needs a lot of space. Things which can be removed (I think they can): - Program name/version - maybe a menu bar with exit, help, bugreport.... can be used - The tooltip note, it isn't needed since tooltips are standard in a modern userfriendly gui.
I don't think these labels waste much space. And tooltip note also mentions What's This's and many users aren't used to those. Rivo
Subject: Re: bounit: space is wasted in the gui > ------- Additional Comments From rivolaks@hot.ee 2002-10-31 21:36 ------- > I don't think these labels waste much space. And tooltip note also mentions > What's This's and many users aren't used to those. > > Rivo Nearly every app in kde and windows has that feature, so I am sure this is a standard on the desktop (Don't know mac enought). A note is really not needed. Also the version doesn't make sense. A real menu makes more sense. We can than remove the save/load/new button. The user will be able to open a unit over the menu or with Ctrl+O The same for save and new. Have you ever seen an app that has the version and a help tip on the bottom which takes nearly 3 cm ? Also the help is important because we than will be able to add a special help path to the index.dektop file like boson/bounit/index.html and the user will be able to find it. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9wZmnS0DOrvdnsewRAszdAJ9vAOL2QC2oN6O794/gJVwpICSCTACeJeEL NSZOsEDkpuGzFFzS8shntTk= =MQlK -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
I'm against a menubar, since bounit is a dialog program. See UI styleguide. About whats this: this is *not* standard. It is standard in the sense that every window system provides it, but is not from a user POV. I've never used them for example and I know a lot of users who do not even know that something like whats this exists (actually I know only very few who use them). A note is useful here. Help and maybe bug report can be implemented using buttons (there should be a line at the bottom, containing close and help at least). About the space: well it mostly depends how you start that thing. Unfortunately there is a stretch area between the two text lines at the bottom (version and tooltip note). This stretch are is definitely a bug, it should be removed and instead the content widget above should be stretchable. When I resize the window (i.e. maximize it) I don't get a bigger content size, but rather a big (wasted) area between the content area, the first text line and a very big wasted area between the two text lines and another area between second line and window bottom. Well - this'd be a few LOC, but this thing is a QT designer creation. So, Rivo, can you fix this? CU Andi
Subject: Re: bounit: space is wasted in the gui Ok, never noticed that users don't know that. I thought that is known because windows and kde uses this. I use it all the time and kcontrol without that isn't useful. About the the dialog program. I don't like programs without a toolbar. That is because I use the Mac toolbar on the top, when a program doesn't have one, ther is the desktop toolbar. I think adding Save/Load/Help/Bugreport/Quit buttons waste more space and it doesn't look really good. A small toolbar doesn't hurt. But big ugly buttons on the bottom.... have fun Felix > ------- Additional Comments From b_mann@gmx.de 2002-11-01 21:45 ------- > I'm against a menubar, since bounit is a dialog program. See UI > styleguide. > > About whats this: this is *not* standard. It is standard in the sense that > every window system provides it, but is not from a user POV. I've never > used them for example and I know a lot of users who do not even know that > something like whats this exists (actually I know only very few who use > them). > A note is useful here. > > Help and maybe bug report can be implemented using buttons (there should be > a line at the bottom, containing close and help at least). > > About the space: well it mostly depends how you start that thing. > Unfortunately there is a stretch area between the two text lines at the > bottom (version and tooltip note). This stretch are is definitely a bug, it > should be removed and instead the content widget above should be > stretchable. > When I resize the window (i.e. maximize it) I don't get a bigger content > size, but rather a big (wasted) area between the content area, the first > text line and a very big wasted area between the two text lines and another > area between second line and window bottom. > > Well - this'd be a few LOC, but this thing is a QT designer creation. So, > Rivo, can you fix this? > > CU > Andi -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9wu6bS0DOrvdnsewRAh9nAJ98jRQJoLzs27YLvI5ZaIr9Dt7W6QCaAqyv Hd1d2j74Mdfw9FgMs9WhRaw= =C3iC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Ok, I moved labels to General tab. Is that ok? Rivo