Bug 49013 - Why a menu entry to save settings?
Summary: Why a menu entry to save settings?
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: konsole
Classification: Applications
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: 1.1.3
Platform: openSUSE Linux
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Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Konsole Developer
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Reported: 2002-10-11 10:28 UTC by Thibaut Cousin
Modified: 2003-03-12 20:27 UTC (History)
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Description Thibaut Cousin 2002-10-11 10:28:58 UTC
Version:           1.1.3 (using KDE 3.0.4)
Installed from:    SuSE
Compiler:          gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (SuSE)
OS:          Linux (i686) release 2.4.18-4GB

Currently, Konsole has a menu entry "Save settings" which is needed to actually save the changes in configuration.

This is not consistent with most KDE applications which save settings as soon as the OK button is clicked in the configuration dialog.

I know Konsole is a bit special among ordinary KDE apps, but I think this is a usability issue that should be thought of...

Thanks for your attention!
Comment 1 Stephan Binner 2002-10-11 15:38:46 UTC
How do you suggest to differ between "change settings of current session" and 
"change defaults for sessions"? 
Comment 2 Thibaut Cousin 2002-10-11 15:49:46 UTC
Subject: Re:  Why a menu entry to save settings?

  That is why I said that Konsole was a bit special compared with ordinary 
applications. With an office-oriented application, I would have said it is 
almost a bug. With Konsole it is not so obvious, I agree.

  Anyway, I watched my users frequently, and several complained that Konsole 
never kept their settings. They had never seen the menu entry "Save settings" 
because they didn't expect it. It was obvious for them that once you 
configure something and click OK, it is saved, if I can say so.
  You could say that the distinction you make between "change settings of 
current session" and "change defaults for sessions" is irrelevant, from their 
point of view.

  I'm just reporting what I saw from users. Most of them set them Konsole 
always the same way, so changes just for one session do not interest them.

  If you really want to keep things as they are, here is a little suggestion: 
extend the configuration dialog box so that it has all the options the menu 
has. This way, changes made directly in the menu are temporary and changes 
made in the dialog box are permanent.
  Maybe I should launch the discussion in kde-usability? What do you think of 
it?
  Regards,

Le Vendredi 11 Octobre 2002 15:38, vous avez 
Comment 3 Stephan Binner 2003-03-04 17:05:14 UTC
Perhaps renaming to "Save as Default" or "Save as Default Settings" would help? 
Comment 4 Thibaut Cousin 2003-03-05 09:19:35 UTC
Yes, it would be all right. 
 
I think the best thing would be to do that, in addition to my previous suggestion: changes made 
in the configuration window are saved as default automatically, changes made in the menu are 
not saved automatically (and you need your "Save as default" entry to save them). 
Comment 5 Stephan Binner 2003-03-12 20:27:59 UTC
It's now called "Save as Default" and changes made with "Configure Konsole..." are 
already always saved (as default).