Bug 48352 - derstandard.at doesn't render correctly
Summary: derstandard.at doesn't render correctly
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: konqueror
Classification: Applications
Component: khtml (show other bugs)
Version: SVN
Platform: Compiled Sources Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Konqueror Developers
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Reported: 2002-09-27 10:30 UTC by Tom Gufler
Modified: 2005-03-08 13:02 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Description Tom Gufler 2002-09-27 10:30:11 UTC
Version:           4.0 (using KDE 3.0.3)
Installed from:    Gentoo
Compiler:          gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (release)
OS:          Linux (i686) release 2.4.19-gentoo-r7

All I can see with Konqueror 3.0.3 is a small part of derstandard.at in the middle of the window. This site worked fine with Konq 3.0.2 (don't know with 3.1 beta). Konqueror is not listed as compatible (not listed at all) with this site however they claim to use the W3C standard very strictly. (works fine with mozilla >0.95 or opera 6)
Comment 1 John Firebaugh 2002-09-30 01:47:48 UTC
Can't reproduce with CVS 
Comment 2 Tom Gufler 2002-10-05 14:29:32 UTC
Using kde3.1 beta2 the bug seems to be partially solved. KHTML now renders http://derstandard.at different (a little better) then kde 3.0.3 however there is a big regression since 3.0.2. The whole left bottom part of the site is not shown. I checked the site with the HTML Validation Service and with the CSS Validation Service and both showed no errors.  
Comment 3 Tom Gufler 2002-10-30 23:22:53 UTC
http://derstandard.at worked fine with KDE 3.1 post-beta2 but doesn't work 
with RC1 (massiv regression). The main frame is not shown at all, only the top 
bar is shown. This site also worked fine with KDE 3.0.2. Please tell me if you 
need further informations.  
Comment 4 Daniel Naber 2002-11-11 14:42:29 UTC
Please create a small test case. 
Comment 5 Ferdinand Gassauer 2002-11-19 06:44:00 UTC
Imho there are some other pages which are not renedered in KDE-CVS 
Comment 6 olistrut 2003-02-28 23:56:32 UTC
Not a testcase, but here is what happens: Through tons of javascript 
code they detect konqueror as a non-netscape browser and use 
document.write calls to generate the page structure (using tables, divs 
and iframes). 
 
Problem seems to be the iframes they use: 
 
<iframe src="javascript:c=\'<html><body><img 
src=\'+unescape(\'%22\')+\'http://derstandard.at/img/site/top/'+ServerName+'.gif\'+unescape(\'%22\')+\'></body></html>\'" 
name="topnav" id="topnav" frameborder="0" scrolling="No" 
marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" width="100%" height="98" 
style="z-index:10;"></iframe> 
 
or  
 
 <iframe id="testxx" src="javascript:c='http://url'" width=100 
height=100></iframe> 
 
 
None of these work in Konqueror 3.1 even when not generated by 
javascript code.  
 
Comment 7 Roland Lezuo 2003-04-08 02:21:47 UTC
bug still there in kde 3.1.1 
Comment 8 Martin Piskernig 2003-09-03 14:35:11 UTC
bug still there in kde 3.1.3 and also in cvs head - page doesn't render at all, 
only a white canvas can be seen. If you go to derstandard.at/standard.asp at 
least the main frame works, but not the menu and left bar.  
Comment 9 roger55 2003-10-13 19:15:19 UTC
kde 3.1.4 still has the same issue. 
safari does a better job for derstandard.at 
 
I hope some dev takes pity on us austrians. 
 
Thanks  
roger55 
Comment 10 Ferdinand Gassauer 2003-10-24 06:45:05 UTC
Hi!
1) this page checks for compatibility and refuses to display the non-text with konqueror because of "non compatibility"

2) changing the browser identification shows images, but not the header of the page
Comment 11 Stephan Kulow 2003-11-01 19:40:00 UTC
actually the one problem that seems to be left over (beside the compat problem)
seems to be the header. And the page seems to go all blank til I resize from time
to time. This is really tricky it seems :)
Comment 12 Ferdinand Gassauer 2003-11-28 17:26:24 UTC
may be they will coop to tell you what's there idea of having this sort of code, to make konqueror rendering this page.
Comment 13 christoph richter 2003-12-01 13:02:36 UTC
yea, just ask
Comment 14 Martin Piskernig 2004-01-11 15:51:13 UTC
Just wanted to tell you that it still doesn't work in CVS HEAD, but it renders different from before for me: 
In 3.1.4 there is everything white (only when I go to derstandard.at/standard.asp I see the content frame, but other two still white). 
Now with HEAD I see the content frame without that "hack" but not the menu frame which should be above it (where it is still white). Also the area left to the content frame should show something like a sidebar (just open in mozilla to see it).

Comment 15 Andrew Hamilton 2004-03-05 06:48:28 UTC
I can also confirm that this bug is not totally resolved in Konqueror 3.2.0.  The header is left blank and others have mentioned.  This page also does appear to be valid HTML 4.0 transitional, however it doesn't include the charset type.
Comment 16 Sashmit Bhaduri 2004-03-16 02:57:57 UTC
Page seems to be fine in kde 3.2.1 except for the upper and lower headers. These appear as blank. These headers are frames. 

When I right click inside of the top frame, I get no context menu enteries for "Frame".. When I right click inside of the bottom frame, I can view the frame source.. however, the location is set to about:blank in that frame. 
Comment 17 Sashmit Bhaduri 2004-03-16 03:07:06 UTC
the dom tree shows a div (id=adserver), a table, and a frame (location=about:blank)
Comment 18 Tom Gufler 2004-05-16 17:30:22 UTC
Problem still persists with QT 3.3.2, KDE 3.2.2
Comment 19 Tom Gufler 2004-05-30 08:57:22 UTC
Problem still exists in kde3.3_alpha1, QT 3.3.2
Comment 20 Tom Gufler 2004-06-03 17:13:39 UTC
derstandard.at does work very well with the KHTML-based Safari (MacOSX 10.3.3), so hopefully the solution is not far away
Comment 21 Ferdinand Gassauer 2004-09-24 19:53:40 UTC
this nasty bug will have it's 2nd birthday soon ;-)
Comment 22 Ferdinand Gassauer 2004-09-25 06:39:28 UTC
another page with similar symptoms
http://kundenbereich.aon.at/index.php
Comment 23 Florian Loitsch 2004-10-01 17:01:13 UTC
I actually noticed a regression from KDE3.2 to KDE3.3. (Not using CVS version
though).
When a page gets loaded (not the front-page), the article will shortly appear,
then disappear. Only way to avoid this seems to stop loading the page at the
correct moment.
I don't know, how long the following URL will stay valid, but it exhibits the
error (don't forget to set your browser identification to IE or Mozilla):
http://derstandard.at/?url=/?id=1810275
Comment 24 Robert Entner 2004-10-02 17:08:32 UTC
I can confirm the regression. I used to use Konqueror for derstandard.at although I could not see the advertisement on top of the page (ohh). But right now the text of the news article disappears as soon as I want to read it ;-/ So I had to switch back to Firefox. It worked up to KDE 3.2.3.

SuSE 9.0 with the KDE 3.3.0 packages from SuSE

BTW: I just found out that Konqueror now includes the long missed "Search as you type" feature -> great!
Comment 25 Florian Loitsch 2004-10-15 18:54:24 UTC
KDE3.3.1 fixed the regression. except one top-bar (ads?) derstandard.at
renders correctly again and is fully functional (as long as one
changes the browser-identification).
Comment 26 Ferdinand Gassauer 2004-11-12 14:51:12 UTC
in CVS it does not rendered
- the top region of http://derstandard.at/
- the bottom region of http://kundenbereich.aon.at/index.php
Comment 27 Jakob Petsovits 2004-11-15 11:13:19 UTC
addendum: the top bar doesn't contain ads (at least not primarily) but a navigation bar between the article ressorts. But it's not a major drawback if you can't use these.
Comment 28 Mario Weilguni 2005-03-04 10:12:53 UTC
I recompiled yesterday with CVS and it works perfectly now. Whoever fixed this - you're my hero

Can someone please test this again with HEAD: http://derstandard.at/
Comment 29 Tommi Tervo 2005-03-04 10:59:07 UTC
Yes, HEAD works fine if browser identification is mozilla.
Comment 30 Georg Prager 2005-03-04 11:11:12 UTC
Is it also fixed in 3.4?
Comment 31 Mario Weilguni 2005-03-04 13:25:40 UTC
I donk think it's fixed in 3.4, must be something from the last few days.
Comment 32 Ferdinand Gassauer 2005-03-08 10:03:26 UTC
Can confirm, that it works in KDE.3.4 RELEASE, but not with "konqueror" as broweser-identification.
Comment 33 Thiago Macieira 2005-03-08 13:02:46 UTC
Closing due to popular confirmation :-)