Bug 46316 - Desktop icon placement poor for files created outside kdesktop
Summary: Desktop icon placement poor for files created outside kdesktop
Status: CLOSED WORKSFORME
Alias: None
Product: kdesktop
Classification: Miscellaneous
Component: icons (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: unspecified Other
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: David Faure
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: 82665 (view as bug list)
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Reported: 2002-08-10 01:18 UTC by Chelsea Buchanan & Keith Briscoe
Modified: 2009-01-02 20:19 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Description Chelsea Buchanan & Keith Briscoe 2002-08-10 01:06:03 UTC
(*** This bug was imported into bugs.kde.org ***)

Package: kde
Version: 3.02

When saving documents from a non-KDE app to the KDE desktop the icon 
placement is very bad.  In particular when saving downloads from 
Mozilla (1.0 or 1.1) to the desktop the icons are placed in a vertical 
column.  This column can and often does exceed the size of the desktop 
saving icons BELOW the bottom of the desktop (I do not normally have a 
desktop larger than my current screen--I have checked and this does not 
appear to be an X configuration issue).  Luckily KDE does allow you to 
scroll the desktop vertically with the mouse wheel (even beyond your 
normal desktop size!) so that you can see your downloads.

You may want to try this with some icons already on the desktop.  With 
my current desktop setup (icons on the desktop lining the left and right 
sides of the screen) my first download in Mozilla appears just below 
the bottom of my screen.  KDE applications never exhibit this behavior 
but I believe that this is still a KDE issue since KDE positions the icon.

Keith
Comment 1 Chelsea Buchanan & Keith Briscoe 2003-01-17 03:18:37 UTC
This behavior seems fixed in recent 3.1 builds.
Comment 2 mklencke 2003-05-18 10:41:43 UTC
I'm using KDE 3.1.1a. The desktop is not scrollable with the mouse wheel, but icons 
still get placed below the lower boundary. This is especially noticeable with many 
devices on the desktop, which all get repositioned every time one of the (un)mounts. 
 
The all get placed vertically under eachother. I've seen the icon placement code and it 
tries to place them in a way that their bottom never exceeds desktop height. 
However, maybe the panel is not taken into consideration, so they still get placed 
behind the panel, which is repetitive because the desktop height grows. 
 
The desktop is scrollable by clicking, holding, and dragging the mouse to the lower 
part of the screen (so making a selection and "pushing" it against the lower part of the 
screen). 
Comment 3 Sebastien 2003-10-30 19:04:48 UTC
- I've KDE 3.1.0 and this is ennoying.
- Just a tip : hide kicker and then out of screen icons will be moved in the visible aera of the desktop.
- Another tip : click on the desktop and without release, move your mouse under the kicker : rectangle selection will appear and the desktop will scroll : you then can view yours out of screen icons (this works also in other sides of the desktop).
- Seem magic but if space is still in the desktop, why place icons out of the screen : the scroll "feature" isn't needed at all (but the actual behavior is good if we effectivly have too icons, and musn't be removed : in Windows we cannot access to icons out of the screen and I wasn't like this).
Comment 4 Chelsea Buchanan & Keith Briscoe 2004-02-05 04:49:17 UTC
I can't reproduce this with KDE3.2, and icon placement now seems much more sane.  
Comment 5 Iván Sánchez Ortega 2004-03-20 12:54:22 UTC
I am able to reproduce this one with KDE 3.2.1 . However, I had to clutter my desktop with lots of .jpg previews (you know, the size of the preview is not the icon size, that may be screwing things up). So:

- Go to Kcontrol -> system admin -> paths
- Change the desktop path to somewhere with lots of images. That directory keeping your holiday's digital photographs will do fine.
- Show desktop, drag a selection from aprox. the center of the screen to the bottom.
- Desktop scrolls. Gee.

I found that to be pretty reproduceable.

Kicker seems to have nothing to do with this, I like it to be placed at the top of the screen (and had it that way when reproducing this bug)

I am using the official KDE 3.2.1 release, packaged for Debian.

BTW, is #40418 a duplicate?
Comment 6 lparrab 2004-10-14 23:18:33 UTC
the problem is still there ( kde 3.3 ) and is not exclusive to non-kde applications...
just make sure you have plenty of icons on the desktop, so that if you say "align icons.." you get at least 3 full columns. then download something with konqueror and in the save dialog select the desktop as target.
most of the time the icons are placed bellow the screen so that you can't see them. in my case i have to select one of the icons in the first column and with the down-arrow key scroll down till the desktop scrolls and I see the icons. then I can drag them to the "normal" part of the desktop. afterwards the desktop is not scrollable anymore  (until I download something else!)
Comment 7 Joel Wiramu Pauling 2004-11-06 06:08:01 UTC
I have filled a bug which is related, which is a request to be able to lock icon placement schemes, and to store desktop profile information on a per resolution basis : see http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92789 
Comment 8 Maksim Orlovich 2004-11-19 18:06:56 UTC
*** Bug 82665 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 9 Chelsea Buchanan & Keith Briscoe 2005-01-28 19:01:18 UTC
This may be a duplicate of bug#40418 (or vice versa) -- but if it is, the title for bug#40418 is wrong: you can experience this problem without intentionally dragging icons offscreen.

I think this may have actually gotten worse recently.  Saving files to my desktop is now horrible because they never show up, and getting the desktop to scroll doesn't always work.  The only way to actually see the files on your desktop with any reliability is to open up Konqueror and navigate to ~/Desktop.  I assume the icons exist offscreen with no way to get to them.
Comment 10 Martin Koller 2006-11-01 17:44:33 UTC
I can not reproduce this in KDE-3.5.5 even with a large number of icons on the desktop. If someone can, please reopen.
Comment 11 FiNeX 2009-01-02 20:19:11 UTC
Bug closed. Kdesktop is no more mantained.