Bug 405496 - Installation of KDE5 immovable
Summary: Installation of KDE5 immovable
Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME
Alias: None
Product: plasmashell
Classification: Plasma
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: master
Platform: Debian stable Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: 1.0
Assignee: David Edmundson
URL:
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Depends on:
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Reported: 2019-03-15 14:36 UTC by lsmod
Modified: 2023-05-12 18:56 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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KDE 5 version (89.05 KB, image/png)
2019-03-15 14:36 UTC, lsmod
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KDE 4 version (12.17 KB, image/png)
2019-03-15 14:36 UTC, lsmod
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1 partly deleted .cache and 2 complete deleted .cache (7.67 KB, application/zip)
2019-03-18 14:23 UTC, lsmod
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Some configuration files and directory content (5.97 KB, application/zip)
2019-03-18 16:02 UTC, lsmod
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Description lsmod 2019-03-15 14:36:00 UTC
Created attachment 118819 [details]
KDE 5 version

Up to KDE 4 it was no problem to configure a complete distribution of Linux on an PC, make an tar.gz of it and deploy this installation to other PC's.
This was working very comfortable and stable.

Now in KDE 5 this seems not possible any more!
In 3 cases after the unpacking i ended in an black empty screen with only the mouse cursor that can be moved on it.
I have no idea why the rest is missing and how to debug this?

The last fatal try was to move an running installation on my PC from the hard-disk to the SSD on the same PC.
Booting from SSD is working, but after the login there is only the blank black screen.


STEPS TO REPRODUCE
1. Boot an Knoppix or another Linux
2. Pack / Backup the running installation in the mounted partition with tar cvfz.
3. Unpack the tar.gz on another hardisk or PC
4. Make the needed adjustment of the fstab to the new UUID, and grub.cfg etc.
5. Boot and start the copied installation


OBSERVED RESULT
Vopied installation ends up with an blank black screen only the mouse working.


EXPECTED RESULT
Copy is working perfect without limits.


SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS
See the screenshots of the last KDE 4 (Debian 8 jessie) and KDE 5 (Debian 9 stretch) Info
Comment 1 lsmod 2019-03-15 14:36:45 UTC
Created attachment 118820 [details]
KDE 4 version
Comment 2 Vlad Zahorodnii 2019-03-15 14:47:35 UTC
kwin has nothing to do with it.
Comment 3 lsmod 2019-03-15 17:05:10 UTC
Then please move this problem to the correct "product". Thanks.
Comment 4 David Edmundson 2019-03-18 13:20:12 UTC
>Now in KDE 5 this seems not possible any more!

Is KDE the only thing that's changed on the system since you last did this?

Please upload your ~/.local/share/sddm/xorg-session.log
Can you run "ps aux" from a real TTY and see what's running.
 
Copying ~/.cache is also ill advised, please wipe this.
Comment 5 lsmod 2019-03-18 14:04:33 UTC
There are many bootable partitions on my system.
So Debian 8 and 9 is installed parallel with KDE 4 and 5 both on the harddisk and SSD.

Looking for the log ~/.local/share/sddm/xorg-session.log shows it has 0 Bytes!
This is the one after the last boot of Debian 9 on the SSD.

I will boot the Debian 9 on the SSD, login switch to a console and capture the running processes ...
Before i will wipe ~/.cache
Comment 6 lsmod 2019-03-18 14:07:04 UTC
There are many files from many applications in ~/.cache.
Trying first to delete only plasma*
Comment 7 lsmod 2019-03-18 14:23:39 UTC
Created attachment 118882 [details]
1 partly deleted .cache and 2 complete deleted .cache

The partly deleted .cache shows now the background picture for the desktop.
Additional there is the mouse cursor and the "cashew" symbol that cannot be clicked as before.

Deleting the complete content of .cache does make no difference.
Comment 8 David Edmundson 2019-03-18 15:21:30 UTC
the ps lines show everything is running. 
(though it looks like a super old plasma 5 based on some commands I saw)

Seems like it's just plasmashell with an issue then. 

I'm not going to spend any time on the .cache problem, but it not restoring after that is still weird. There is some code to store things on a per unique monitor connection basis, but it should still migrate the primary screen correctly.

Can you spawn a console via alt+space then typing konsole, and run plasmashell from there, attaching the logs.

Afterwards try moving your ~/.config/plasma* and see what happens.
Comment 9 lsmod 2019-03-18 16:02:13 UTC
Created attachment 118888 [details]
Some configuration files and directory content

This is a good idea, because i really can open an console window that has normal window behaviour.

The command plasmashell is hanging.

After moving the plasma-files into another directory (attached) and restarting i get the original background picture of the distribution, but still no other elements.
Comment 10 Christoph Feck 2019-03-31 06:42:41 UTC
New information was added with comment #9; changing status for inspection.
Comment 11 lsmod 2019-03-31 16:48:45 UTC
A corresponding bug report has been opened at Debian.
Please refer to https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=926066
Comment 12 Nate Graham 2023-04-27 21:53:50 UTC
Is any of this still happening to you with Plasma 5.27, if you try again?
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Comment 14 lsmod 2023-05-12 07:01:02 UTC
At this time working with Debian 11 (bullseye), that is using 
KDE-Plasma-Version: 5.20.5
KDE-Frameworks-Version: 5.78.0
Qt-Version: 5.15.2
Kernel-Version: 5.10.0-22-amd64

Here it seems to be possible again to pack and move an installation.
So waiting long enough seems to solve one or another bug. :-)
Comment 15 Nate Graham 2023-05-12 18:56:09 UTC
All right, cool! I wonder if it was working before too, and there was some kind of local configuration issue.