Bug 301841 - Plasma tooltip popups block user interface
Summary: Plasma tooltip popups block user interface
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: libplasma
Classification: Frameworks and Libraries
Component: components (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: Gentoo Packages Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Marco Martin
URL:
Keywords: usability
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2012-06-13 19:25 UTC by Janek Bevendorff
Modified: 2016-10-08 08:11 UTC (History)
6 users (show)

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kde: Usability+


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Description Janek Bevendorff 2012-06-13 19:25:45 UTC
The plasma tooltip popups are often blocking UI elements and don't go away instantly when moving the mouse. This is pretty annoying at times when you want to reach a button, but just moved the mouse over an element which creates a plasma tooltip that is now blocking the button you wanted to reach.

Reproducible: Always

Actual Results:  
The plasma tooltips are very static and solid, they don't go away instantly when you move the mouse, it isn't possible to click through them and due to their size they often block big parts of the UI.
In order to get rid of a popup you often need to move your mouse to a completely different part of the monitor, wait a second and then return carefully to avoid triggering the popup again by accident.
This is most extreme in the widget explorer, but also applies to other places where plasma popups are used, including the task manager, the system tray, etc.

Expected Results:  
The popups should disappear immediately when moving the mouse off the UI element that triggered them (and not only when moving it _far_ off) and when they don't contain any UI elements that require user interaction such as buttons or links, they should also go away when the mouse is over the popup but not over the UI element that brought up the popup.

They should NOT block any UI elements whatsoever. In general, they should just behave like normal tooltips in a UI behave.
Comment 1 Anne-Marie Mahfouf 2012-06-13 19:32:51 UTC
I agree. I very much dislike the tooltips in widget explorer blocking the search field for example.
Comment 2 Mark 2012-06-19 23:22:38 UTC
(In reply to comment #0)
> In order to get rid of a popup you often need to move your mouse to a
> completely different part of the monitor, wait a second and then return
> carefully to avoid triggering the popup again by accident.

That one made me laugh :) I've had that issue quite a few times. I think the best thing to do here letting the popup fade away if the mouse if hovered over it. I will try to make a patch for this one this week and see if it gets accepted.
Comment 3 Janek Bevendorff 2012-07-19 22:39:25 UTC
Still a severe usability issue in 4.9rc2.
Comment 4 Bhushan Shah 2013-07-29 15:28:46 UTC
Well if you click on tooltip they goes away. 

Using KDE 4.10.97 Arch Linux packages.
Comment 5 Igor Poboiko 2015-02-07 14:14:02 UTC
Still an issue with Plasma 5.2. Easy to reproduce: just click right mouse button to trigger context menu before tooltip shows up (there is quite a big delay!); then it shows above the context menu making it unreachable.
Clicking however is processed by context menu and not by tooltip; so it is easy to trigger menu item you can't even see.
Comment 6 Mark 2015-02-07 14:24:18 UTC
(In reply to Mark from comment #2)
> (In reply to comment #0)
> > In order to get rid of a popup you often need to move your mouse to a
> > completely different part of the monitor, wait a second and then return
> > carefully to avoid triggering the popup again by accident.
> 
> That one made me laugh :) I've had that issue quite a few times. I think the
> best thing to do here letting the popup fade away if the mouse if hovered
> over it. I will try to make a patch for this one this week and see if it
> gets accepted.

I obviously did't keep my promise to make a patch :)
I gladly leave this to the more skilled people.

I tried plasma 5.2 just a few days ago and instantly noticed this issue is still here. I was actually going to create a bug report for it, but apparently this bug report is still alive.

I don't really know where to put this bug now. Frameworks-plasma, desktop? (i've set it to that). Please correct it if this is wrong.
Comment 7 Igor Poboiko 2015-09-14 19:34:58 UTC
Can't reproduce it with Plasma 5.4: either popup isn't shown (when context menu opens before it) or it disappears (after).
Comment 8 Lindsay Roberts 2016-10-08 08:11:34 UTC
Closing as RESOLVED:FIXED - confirmed Igor's findings from 5.4 - tooltips disappear almost instantly on mouseover.