Bug 193943 - "Lock Widgets" wording confusing
Summary: "Lock Widgets" wording confusing
Status: RESOLVED UNMAINTAINED
Alias: None
Product: plasma4
Classification: Plasma
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: Ubuntu Unspecified
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Plasma Bugs List
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Reported: 2009-05-24 20:35 UTC by Dotan Cohen
Modified: 2018-06-08 20:23 UTC (History)
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Description Dotan Cohen 2009-05-24 20:35:14 UTC
Version:            (using KDE 4.2.3)
Installed from:    Ubuntu Packages

On the desktop context menu there are two actions with similar wording:
Lock Screen
Lock Widgets

"Lock Screen" makes it so that the screen cannot be used. That implies that "Lock Widgets" would make it so that the widgets cannot be used. I propose "Set Widgets", or better yet, "Set Plasmoids" to replace "Lock Widgets".
Comment 1 Tanja Schulte 2009-06-06 18:44:10 UTC
"Lock" is more meaningful than "set". The widgets are locked in place. I wouldn't expect anything else from this notation. "Set widgets" is like "setup", I'd expect it to be the same as "unlock".
Comment 2 Dotan Cohen 2009-06-06 21:30:53 UTC
How about "Anchor Plasmoids"?
Comment 3 Tanja Schulte 2009-06-07 16:18:13 UTC
"Anchor" sounds reasonable IMHO, everybody should now what that means. :)
Comment 4 Aaron J. Seigo 2009-06-10 05:53:34 UTC
as a North American English speaker, "anchor" has zero meaning to me in relation to widgets :)
Comment 5 Maciej Pilichowski 2009-06-10 14:07:26 UTC
Not native English speaker here.

"Anchor" is pretty accurate. It is meaningful to me and other users because of applications like OOWriter. Since it is used for many years I would say we should reuse it because of the similarity (unless there is some better choice, "lock" isn't because of the dissimilarity).

It has also good counterpart in Polish, while "lock" does not have.
Comment 6 Dotan Cohen 2009-06-11 10:57:51 UTC
> as a North American English speaker, "anchor" has zero
> meaning to me in relation to widgets

Aaron, what words _do_ have meaning in relation to widgets? Only those words for which we make the context. "Lock" certainly had no meaning in relation to widgets when widgets were invented.

In any case, as it has been stressed to call the Plasma-specific widgets "Plasmoids" no word in any language yet has meaning in context!
Comment 7 James Richard Tyrer 2009-06-13 04:45:41 UTC
This is not a WishList item.  It is a usability issue.  Are usability issues bugs or should we have an additional category for them?

What 'Unlock Widgets' should be is 'Configure Widgets'.

I can't think of something for an opposite string, I suggest that it should simply be 'Configure Widgets' and it could be turned on and off.
Comment 8 Maciej Pilichowski 2009-06-13 08:42:21 UTC
"Configure widgets" not even suggests, it simply says, it configures widgets, which would be untrue.

[ ] anchor plasmoids

is more appropriate (actually it is my favourite, Peter proposition (from ML) with "pin" is #2).
Comment 9 Dotan Cohen 2009-06-13 09:38:25 UTC
In light of bug #196201 (the term "plasmoid" is not to be shown in the UI) I propose either:

1)
☐ Anchor Widgets      // when 'unlocked'
☑ Anchor Widgets      // when 'locked'

2)
☑ Configure Widgets   // when 'unlocked'
☐ Configure Widgets   // when 'locked'

3)
Anchor Widgets       // when 'unlocked'
Configure Widgets    // when 'locked'
Comment 10 Maciej Pilichowski 2009-06-13 10:09:37 UTC
ad.3) it is HIG violation and should not be used
ad.2) it is misleading/confusing, you would use term "configure" as an action and as a state (even maybe in the same menu, not good)
Comment 11 Lukas 2009-07-08 12:18:54 UTC
Why not to change this to 
"Lock/Unlock widgets editing" - does not confuses with lock screen.
Or "Lock/Unlock layout" - in this mode we change layout more than widgets itself.
Comment 12 Dotan Cohen 2009-07-08 18:48:17 UTC
Lukas is on the right track, I think that it could be improved to "Enable Widgets Editing".
Comment 13 James Richard Tyrer 2009-07-09 13:58:43 UTC
(In reply to comment #12)
> Lukas is on the right track, I think that it could be improved to "Enable
> Widgets Editing".

Yes, that would be OK.  IMHO, the one important issue is not to have "Locked" be the first word of the phrase since it is easily confused with "Lock Screen".
Comment 14 FiNeX 2009-08-08 00:56:34 UTC
How did E17 managed this task? Them have a sort of "editing status" of desktop objects.
Comment 15 Shaun Reich 2010-03-13 18:04:31 UTC
If anything, as a native english speaker, I would say that "Lock widget layout" would make the most sense. 

Not "anchor", not "set widgets", not "Lock widget editing", and certainly not "Configure Widgets".
Comment 16 Nate Graham 2018-06-08 20:23:08 UTC
Hello!

This feature request was filed for KDE Plasma 4, which reached end-of-support status in August 2015. KDE Plasma 5's desktop shell has been almost completely rewritten for better performance and usability, so it is likely that this feature request is already implemented in Plasma 5, or is no longer applicable.

Accordingly, we hope you understand why we must close this feature request. If the requested feature is still desired but not implemented in KDE Plasma 5.12 or later, please feel free to open a new ticket in the "plasmashell" product after reading https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved/Bug_Reporting

If you would like to get involved in KDE's bug triaging effort so that future mass bug closes like this are less likely, please read https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved#Bug_Triaging

Thanks for your understanding!

Nate Graham