Bug 164127 - please provide configurable behiavour for auto-raise of plasmoids
Summary: please provide configurable behiavour for auto-raise of plasmoids
Status: RESOLVED INTENTIONAL
Alias: None
Product: plasma4
Classification: Plasma
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: unspecified Linux
: NOR wishlist
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Assignee: Plasma Bugs List
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Reported: 2008-06-15 11:41 UTC by Maciej Pilichowski
Modified: 2008-06-16 10:53 UTC (History)
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Description Maciej Pilichowski 2008-06-15 11:41:20 UTC
Version:            (using KDE 4.0.82)

plasmoid should follow the settings for window behaviour

for example:
auto-raise -- I set it off for purpose, yet, plasmoid violates this settings and behaves exactly opposite.
Comment 1 FiNeX 2008-06-15 16:22:01 UTC
What do you mean?
Comment 2 Maciej Pilichowski 2008-06-15 16:29:51 UTC
Now I am puzzled how to explain this :-)

auto-raise off -> windows are _not_ auto-raised 
auto-raise off -> plasmoids _are_ auto-raised

I simply wish for consistency.
Comment 3 Riccardo Iaconelli 2008-06-15 18:57:44 UTC
hum.... plasmoids are not windows! =)
Comment 4 Pino Toscano 2008-06-15 19:01:27 UTC
> plasmoid should follow the settings for window behaviour 

Since when stuff that is clearly not a window should behave like it is?
Plasmoids are not windows, they not even have any relation with them.
And, they even have a quite different look than windows.

You wish for "consistency"? You have it, non-windows don't behave like windows, simple and easy.
Comment 5 Maciej Pilichowski 2008-06-15 19:04:49 UTC
Of course they are not windows, but:

a) current behaviour is hard-coded
b) there is no configuration for widgets
c) why user sets for example "auto-raise" off? because it is harder for him/her to work with auto-rise on

I could rephrase the wish like this:
please provide configurable widget behaviour 
Comment 6 Aaron J. Seigo 2008-06-16 00:40:22 UTC
it's an object model on a canvas, not a windowing system.

going that route is a sure pathway to madness for the codebase and interaction.
Comment 7 Maciej Pilichowski 2008-06-16 10:53:38 UTC
Aaron, but you realize that you force of UI mode _you_ like to all the KDE users.

If auto-raise is the only true way it should be dropped from SS for windows -- after all it is superior to raise-on-demand.

Not irony, but simple consequence. Either user is in control, or KDE is. I don't see any benefit for user if he/she has to struggle in two modes at the same time (and one of the modes is she/he dislikes).

Auto-raise also causes common problems when managing widgets.

And one more thing -- for code (internally) there could be plasmoids, windows. For user there are just objects.

> madness for the codebase and interaction. 
 
One consistent mode is madness? I see madness right now, because object on my desktop behave in two different ways.