Bug 162526 - Turn Off/On Folder View's Background (plasmoid)
Summary: Turn Off/On Folder View's Background (plasmoid)
Status: RESOLVED INTENTIONAL
Alias: None
Product: plasma4
Classification: Plasma
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: Compiled Sources Linux
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Plasma Bugs List
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Reported: 2008-05-23 17:03 UTC by Augusto Leite
Modified: 2008-06-09 13:22 UTC (History)
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Description Augusto Leite 2008-05-23 17:03:00 UTC
Version:            (using Devel)
Installed from:    Compiled sources
OS:                Linux

First of all, I want to congratulate all you plasma developers for the excellent job and I'd like to say that this folder view feature is simply awesome.

Many people complain about the Folder View background (Some want to see the wallpaper -transparent background-, others want the background translucent,etc). If there was the ability/option of turning off/on the background of this plasmoid, I think this problem would be solved (since the transluced background can be made by theming). It is already implemented on the Battery Monitor plasmoid.

Well, just a suggestion... keep up with the excellent work and sorry for my English, still learning...
Comment 1 Riccardo Iaconelli 2008-05-23 17:13:58 UTC
I have just written the patch for it, wating for an approval on the mailing list and I'll commit for 4.1. =)
Comment 2 Augusto Leite 2008-05-23 17:15:55 UTC
WOW!!! That was really fast! I sent this wishlist just some minutes ago!! :D
Comment 3 loic 2008-05-23 20:06:44 UTC
Is it possible to have this (the transparency) activated by default ?

First impression is very important for user...
Cheers !
Comment 4 Aaron J. Seigo 2008-05-24 10:04:13 UTC
making it transparent is the wrong approach. it would make it rather confusing as to why you couldn't click on items beneath the applet; you wouldn't have a clear indication of where you could start rubber banding; etc..

the real solution is a combination of:

* proper artwork (glassified is an awesome theme in this respect)

* finishing off making the folderview a containment so that the purists can go back to kde3 style
Comment 5 loic 2008-05-24 10:32:51 UTC
Hey everybody !

Why not making transparent by default and when applet have the focus, just become semi-transparent so the user could know where to start such things.

The idea behind Folderview is so great and if i well understand containment (possible that i don't, sorry) user that making it a containment will not have the advantages of the plasmoid like having the possibility to have multi folder view in the desktop. 

In fact i think that user like their wallpaper and plasmoids so the idea is to make them the most unobtrusive possible. 

Cheers !
Comment 6 Augusto Leite 2008-05-24 14:31:33 UTC
Well, I think I understand where you guys want to reach. Making it a containment (like the desktop containment) will give the possibility of adding a Folder View as an activity, for instance (once it is implemented). It is a very nice and new approach.

... And a containment has almost all the advantages of any plasmoid (it can't rotate now, but who's going to rotate a Folder View?), so you can have multi-folder's view because you can add more than one containment in the desktop.

I thought of this wishlist as a way to make people complain less (they will complain of having this folder view's background since they are used to the old way of seeing icons on the Desktop), but I understand this approach, let's see if others will.

Keep rocking plasma guys!

Comment 7 Riccardo Iaconelli 2008-05-24 15:20:03 UTC
I hadn't seen that this bug was closed as wontfix and I committed.

Now, as I explained in the commit log, this might just be a temprorary fix, waiting for better artwork or for this to be made a containment.

And, preventing the obvious answer: this is not a bad thing as it's not just a small patch to workaround an annoyance that will just partly remove the annyoiance, therefore preventing the rightFixing™, because:

- The artwork the plasmoid is using is simply the standard background, which is being redone anyways
- A containment out of this applet (which is worse than using the applet in my opinion) is a non-trivial work, and if it needs to be done, it will be done anyways, as it's not related (or not strictly) to this issue.

And, in case we don't manage to make it a container for 4.1 (we need containment switching, and several other stuff... I think our release schedule doesn't really allow this) at least it won't hurt anyone's eyes. =)
Comment 8 loic 2008-05-24 17:43:59 UTC
Hi Raccordo, and everybody

First impression is crucial for user and i think making it transparent by default is important. Perhaps the good solution to let user that it is a plasmoid and know them limited area is to do what Marco Martin have done here (a pretty semi-transparent area", but only when the mouse is inside the plasmoid :  http://reviewboard.vidsolbach.de/r/17/

so by default :
- keep your transparent solution
when plasmoid has focus/mouse is coming over
- make the plasmoid semi-transparent like Marco does

What do all of you think about ?

Cheers
Comment 9 FiNeX 2008-06-09 13:22:41 UTC
I like the current "semi transparent" option.

In future it could be added the possibility to select the backtround, for example:
- full transparent
- semi transparent
- opaque color 
- background image