Bug 155347 - kconfigupdate script for 4.0.x -> 4.1 for kickoff keyboard shortcut
Summary: kconfigupdate script for 4.0.x -> 4.1 for kickoff keyboard shortcut
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: plasma4
Classification: Unmaintained
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: unspecified Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Plasma Bugs List
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Reported: 2008-01-09 18:39 UTC by András Manţia
Modified: 2009-02-21 20:24 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Description András Manţia 2008-01-09 18:39:28 UTC
Version:            (using KDE Devel)

Shortly: ALT-F1 doesn't work. I think it's an accessibility bug, as it means the menu access requires a mouse.
Comment 1 Aaron J. Seigo 2008-01-10 08:19:38 UTC
first problem to solve here is: what does "the menu" mean. it's a bit naive to assume kickoff, let alone "that" instance of kickoff. perhaps better is to allow one to define shortcuts per applet and then in the default have a menu entry bound to that.
Comment 2 András Manţia 2008-01-10 08:29:50 UTC
Well yes, in KDE4 you can have multiple menus... But there should be a 
way to assign shortcuts to Kickoff, Lancelot, traditional menu and the 
default should be Alt-F1 assigned to Kickoff (as Kickoff is the default 
menu used in KDE4, right?).
I just tried to solve this via khotkeys and a dbus call, but it seems to 
be not possible, kickoff doesn't have a dbus interface.
Comment 3 András Manţia 2008-01-10 08:31:46 UTC
As an addition: in KDE3, if you add more than one menu to the panel, the 
first one will be opened with the shortcut. That is a good solution from 
the user point of view.
Comment 4 Aaron J. Seigo 2008-01-10 08:58:17 UTC
it's a good solution .. most of the time. and the way to achieve it was a complete hack =) we actually relied on a lot of assumed behaviour (e.g. the "first" menu was also the one that would get created first, etc). i agree it worked pretty damn well, but there were a lot of uncaught corner cases.

that said, the kmenu was also *built into* kicker so it was possible to rummaging through all the objects looking for a "k menu". we can do something similar in plasma, but it's even more assumptive to do so.

i have some thoughts on how to solve this elegantly, though, and will try and get a patch for it this month.
Comment 5 Sebastian Sauer 2008-02-20 00:26:28 UTC
*** Bug 154564 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 6 Andres Järv 2008-03-09 15:05:00 UTC
Why can't I bind only the Windows key to anything in KDE? Wouldn't it be convinient if the menu could be opened just by pressing that key like in Windows? I realize it would make things "more Windows-ish" etc but the damn key is there. Sitting on my keyboard. Why not utilize it? At the moment you still need another key to be pressed at the same time but that doesn't make a lot of sense. Why not use Alt then.
Comment 7 Chani 2008-03-12 10:03:16 UTC
andres: because kde has a policy of not allowing shortcuts consisting only of modifier keys. there's a good reason for it but I'm too tired to explain it properly and this isn't really the place. see also http://docs.kde.org/kde3/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2552742
Comment 8 Milan Krivda 2008-03-28 20:05:05 UTC
I miss win-key shortcut for K Menu too.
Comment 9 usrrgt 2008-03-28 20:53:25 UTC
I am a KDE user, but in GNOME is more easy link "win key" to the main menu of GNOME.
Comment 10 Jason Stubbs 2008-06-01 06:01:17 UTC
With 4.1 just around the corner, it's time to close off 4.0 bugs. In the off chance that I'm wrong in believing this to be fixed in 4.1, please reopen. :)
Comment 11 Jason Stubbs 2008-06-01 06:01:33 UTC
And closing...
Comment 12 András Manţia 2008-06-01 09:04:03 UTC
Can you enlighten me how can you access it via shortcut? Which revision is needed?
Comment 13 Jason Stubbs 2008-06-01 09:35:01 UTC
All the necessary parts were put in by Aaron by rev 815055. Just went to confirm to be sure and found that the association is only made when plasma-appletsrc doesn't exist. You should be able to head into System Settings => Keyboard & Mouse => Keyboard Shortcuts => Plasma Workspace => Application Launcher and set up your preferred key combination there.
Comment 14 András Manţia 2008-06-01 10:36:58 UTC
Well, I don't have Application Launcher there to select... And now I have to 
remove my plasma-appletsrc. Sigh.
Comment 15 Jason Stubbs 2008-06-01 10:52:24 UTC
Will reopen then until at minimum the option is available without removing plasma-appletsrc and preferably the default Alt-F1 set too.
Comment 16 András Manţia 2008-06-01 11:34:21 UTC
Yes, I think it should work with existing configuration, otherwise noone 
upgrading from KDE 4.0.4 will have the feature. Or a kconfig update script 
needs to be written.
Comment 17 Aaron J. Seigo 2008-06-12 13:11:25 UTC
> Or a kconfig update script needs to be written. 

this is the only way it's possible.

btw, re-opening bug reports like this is really not great. at the *very* least change the summary so that its apparent what the issue has become. *best* is to open a new bug detailing the new issue, since that way i don't have to wade on through to the bottom of the report to figure out why it's been reopened.
Comment 18 András Manţia 2008-06-12 14:53:06 UTC
That's arguable and probably a personal preference. :) 
Comment 19 Aaron J. Seigo 2008-07-06 11:28:09 UTC
*** Bug has been marked as fixed ***.
Comment 20 Hendy Irawan 2009-02-21 20:24:44 UTC
This bug isn't fixed! It's well and alive...

The "proper" solution is strange:

1. Right click the K Menu / Kickoff, click "Application Launcher Settings"
2. Click "Keyboard Shortcut", assign "Alt+F1", when it says it conflicts with Plasma Workspace Application Launcher, simply click through
3. Click OK and voila! You have your Alt+F1 again

And this doesn't make you lose any of your desktop settings. :-)

PS. This still happens with KDE 4.2 on PPA repository. (Kubuntu Intrepid 8.10)
$ aptitude show kdeplasma-addons
Package: kdeplasma-addons
State: installed
Automatically installed: no
Version: 4:4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2

The offending lines (diff format) are here in ".kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc":

[Containments][3][Applets][4][Shortcuts]
-global=Alt+F1
+global=


See also: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeplasma-addons/+bug/271622