Version: 1.2.90 (using KDE KDE 3.97.0) Installed from: Compiled From Sources Compiler: gcc 4.2.2 OS: Linux kstars 1.2.90 displays Saturn in Gemini constellation and, when right-clicking on object and selecting Details->position gives as coordinates: RA 06h 55m 08s Dec 22° 50' 06" while kstars 1.2.5 (with kde 3.5.8) gives: RA 10h 43m 12s Dec 9° 51' 44" and xephem 3.7.2 gives: RA 10h 42m 47s Dec 9° 54' 18" quite in good agreement with kstars 1.2.5 (I made calculations at slightly different times, so planet positions can change a little). A quick look at the sky gives the definitive demonstration that kstars 1.2.90 is wrong. Also Mars position is wrong, the two planets have, with bad approximation, more or less exchanged their positions, since Mars is displayed near Leo and Saturn near Gemini. Thank you for your kind attention and for your great work! Cheers. Gabriele Inghirami
I can't confirm this. Are you sure you have the date set properly in kstars-1.2.90? Try pressing Ctrl+E to reset the simulation clock to your system time. On two of my machines, I see Saturn in Leo, at 10h 43m, +9 51' (KStars-1.2.90, KDE-3.97.1) If you still confirm the issue, please attach the following information to this bug report: + Start KStars from a terminal window, and capture the console output to a file: "kstars > kstars.out 2>&1". Don't interact with the program, just Quit as soon as it's done starting up. + the contents of your {$KDEDIR|$KDEHOME}/share/apps/kstars directories: "ls -l $KDEDIR/share/apps/kstars > kstars_kdedir.txt" "ls -l $KDEHOME/share/apps/kstars > kstars_kdehome.txt"
Yes, date is set to system time, which is in turn set using ntp... Here follows kstars.out: kstars(2118) main: Date string: "" kstars(2118)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*) KSystemTimeZonesPrivate::instance: instance(): ... initialised kstars(2118)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*) KSystemTimeZonesPrivate::readConfig: readConfig(): local zone= "Europe/Rome" kstars(2118)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*) KSystemTimeZonesPrivate::readZoneTab: readZoneTab( "/usr/share/zoneinfo/zone.tab" ) kstars(2118) SimClock::setUTC: "lun dic 17 19:03:42 2007" kstars(2118) SimClock::setUTC: is dateTime valid? true kstars(2118) SimClock::setUTC: "Impostazione orologio: UTC: 2007-12-17T19:03:42 GG: 2,454,452.29" kstars(2118)/kdecore (KConfigSkeleton) KCoreConfigSkeleton::KCoreConfigSkeleton: Creating KCoreConfigSkeleton ( 0x8380370 ) kstars(2118)/kdecore (KConfigSkeleton) KCoreConfigSkeleton::readConfig: KCoreConfigSkeleton::readConfig() kstars(2118) KStarsDateTime::fromString: Date string: "" kstars(2118) KStarsDateTime::fromString: "Impossibile interpretare la stringa Data/Ora: " "" kstars(2118) KStarsDateTime::fromString: "Formati di data validi: " kstars(2118) KStarsDateTime::fromString: 1950-02-25 ; 1950-02-25T05:30:00 kstars(2118) KStarsDateTime::fromString: 25 Feb 1950 ; 25 Feb 1950 05:30:00 kstars(2118) KStarsDateTime::fromString: Sat Feb 25 1950 ; Sat Feb 25 05:30:00 1950 kstars(2118) SimClock::setUTC: "lun dic 17 18:03:42 2007" kstars(2118) SimClock::setUTC: is dateTime valid? true kstars(2118) SimClock::setUTC: "Impostazione orologio: UTC: 2007-12-17T18:03:42Z GG: 2,454,452.25" kstars(2118) KStars::KStars: glibc >= 2.1 detected. Using GNU extension sincos() cbounds.dat: tossing dupe on line 600: (20,638658, 2,436087) cbounds.dat: tossing dupe on line 3661: (7,924774, 13,173217) Object::connect: No such slot KToggleAction::slotToggled(false) Object::connect: (receiver name: 'clock_startstop') Object::connect: No such slot KToggleAction::slotToggled(true) Object::connect: (receiver name: 'clock_startstop') kstars(2118)/kdeui (KXmlGui) KXMLGUIFactory::removeClient: KXMLGUIFactory::removeClient( 0x832c230 ) kstars(2118)/kdeui (KXmlGui) KXMLGUIFactory::addClient: KXMLGUIFactory::addClient( 0x832c230 ) kstars(2118) SimClock::start: "Avvio timer" kstars(2118) KStars::datainitFinished: The current Date/Time is: "2007-12-17T19:03:52" kstars(2118)/kdecore (KConfigSkeleton) KCoreConfigSkeleton::writeConfig: KCoreConfigSkeleton::writeConfig() kstars(2118)/kdecore (KConfigSkeleton) KCoreConfigSkeleton::readConfig: KCoreConfigSkeleton::readConfig() Here follows kstars_kdedir: rw-r--r-- 1 kde-devel users 22518 2007-11-10 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I'm stumped so far. Can you try checking the position of Saturn when you run "KDE_LANG=en_US kstars" from the command line? Perhaps there's some weirdness happening due to translation. If so, I will be very grateful for this bug report!
I tried running KDE_LANG=en_US kstars, but nothing has changed (except for the language translation, obviously). Last time I compiled and installed kde4rc2 over the old kde4rc1 directory (OK, not a brilliant idea, but I did it quite often in the past with kde 3.x and nothing weird ever happened), I'll make a new compilation from scratch in a clean directory, then I'll make you a new report...
I compiled again the whole kde4rc2 suite, without using the translation module, after removing the old installation and the .kde directory in the home directory, but the issue is still present...
I have exactly the same problem with the following configuration: KStars Version 1.2.90 KDE: Version 3.95.00 (KDE 4.0 Beta4) Compiler: gcc.exe OS: Microsoft Windows (i686) release 5.1 (XP Home Edition) Installed from: MS Windows Binaries Longitude: 151.283 Latitude: -33.916 LT: 00:00:00 02 Jan 2008 UT: 14:00:00 01 Jan 2008 More generally, the positions of the planets and the sun are wrong. But the positions of the stars seem correct. Maybe it is the same bug as 145250 (Sun and planets position on the star map are all wrong)?
#6: Please provide coordinates of some of the planets according to KStars on that date. Also, are you using a translation for kstars, or the default (english)?
*** Bug 145250 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Here's an idea. Can either of you check to see if Mars has a retrograde cycle with a period of about two years? Change to Equatorial coordinates (spacebar), then track on Mars ("4" key), then set the timestep to a week. You should see Mars loop backwards in its path every two years. If "Mars" has somehow switched orbital data with "Saturn", then the loops will be much smaller and will occur about once a year. See the screenshot: http://www.30doradus.org/kde/retrograde.png Also, can someone check to see if Pluto's position is correct? Pluto is considered an asteroid in the program, so if its coordinates are correct, that at least isolates the poblem to KSPlanet rather than KSPlanetBase. What about the Sun? Does everyone agree with 145250 that their positions are also incorrect? And the Moon? Here are the coordinates on my machine for 1/2/2008: Mars 05h 57m +26d 57' Saturn 10h 43m +9d 59' Pluto 17h 56m -17d 11' Sun 18h 50m -22d 56' Moon 14h 07m -18d 36' It will be interesting to see if you all have the same (wrong) coordinates for these bodies, so please report results even if someone else already has. Since three people are having the same problem, I am "confirming" the bug, even though none of the developers can reproduce it.
Oops, I should have said "2 Jan 2008" instead of the ambiguous "1/2/2008"...
Created attachment 22814 [details] mars and saturn with kde3 version
Created attachment 22815 [details] mars and saturn with kde4 version this second attachment shows the difference for me between kde3 and kde4 versions. Note that the first is in french and the second is in english. As I'm a very beginner in astro, I cannot say what is the good one, but looking to the sky the one shown as mars in kde3 seems to be red in the sky...
Created attachment 22829 [details] Solar system view 1
Created attachment 22830 [details] Solar system view 2
Re: #7 Here are the coordinates on my machine for the following date, time and location: Longitude: 151.283 Latitude: -33.916 LT: 00:00:00 02 Jan 2008 UT: 14:00:00 01 Jan 2008 Body RA Dec Sun 15h 40m 02s -19° 33' 18" Moon 13h 26m 42s -12° 48' 03" Mercury 15h 40m 02s -19° 33' 12" Venus 15h 40m 02s -19° 33' 12" Mars 10h 31m 14s + 9° 17' 59" Jupiter 15h 58m 00s -20° 29' 05" Saturn 06h 52m 45s +22° 53' 10" Pluto 00h 00m 00s + 0° 00' 00" Mercury and Venus have the same coordinates and almost (but not exactly) the coordinates of the Sun. Pluto has its coordinates set to exactly zero. Moreover, the Solar system view (Tools > Solar System) has a very strange aspect. The orbits look... quantised (see attachments), as if there were a conversion from a floating point number to an integer somewhere. Using the Calculator (Tools > Calculator > Planets Coordinates) to see the coordinates of the solar system objects, it appears very clearly that the distances in the Heliocentric Ecliptic Coordinates are integers (or truncated to an integer value), except for Pluto: Body Distance (AU) Sun 0.000000 Moon 0.000000 Mercury 0.000000 Venus 0.000000 Earth 1.000000 Mars 1.000000 Jupiter 5.000000 Saturn 9.000000 Uranus 19.000000 Neptune 30.000000 Pluto 31.392711
I'm using Kstars in English on Windows XP SP2 in French. Could the problem come from the fact that the decimal separator in English '.' is not the same as the decimal separator in French ','? For example, the algorithm reading the data files expect decimal numbers written with the local decimal separator ',' when those files actually contain numbers with '.'? Could this explain the apparent truncation of some numbers in KStars?
In the Configuration Panel of the Operating System, I changed the decimal separator from ',' to '.' and then I restarted KStars. The planets, Sun and Moon are now at the right position. Even the Solar System View looks nice with smooth orbits. Does that mean that the drawing of planet orbits in the Solar System View uses string to number conversions? That seems a bit worrying... Anyway, it seems you'll have to look at all the string to number and number to string conversions. If the string is stored in a configuration or data file, the conversion should use the C locale. If the string is read or entered by a user, the conversion should use the system locale. Maybe the same problem exists for other data like dates and times? In #15, the fact that Pluto had zero coordinates was actually caused by the fact that it was unchecked in Settings > Configure KStars > Solar System. Should I log that as a separate bug?
#17: Aha, now we are getting somewhere. Thank you so much for investigating this problem. I'll try to post a patch as soon as I can. Please file a separate bug for the Pluto coordinates issue.
I set up the following date, time and location: 01 january 2008 LT 15:00 - UT 14:00 * Florence, Italy - 11° 14' 45" E - 43° 46' 35" N - timezone GMT+1 * there were a few seconds of difference between the two following computations, so here I wrote only hours and minutes, but this tiny difference doesn't matter in our case. Also the location is different from Degro's one and there are some small parallax effects. I made two calcuations using the observing list tool. In the first one, after removing the ~/.kde4 directory, I set up the LANG variable to it_IT: export LANG=it_IT then I started the X server, then KDE4 and finally kstars. Here are the results of the computations: body ra dec sun 15h 40m 02s -19° 33' 19" moon 13h 21m 17s -13° 51' 35" mercury 15h 40m 01s -19° 33' 24" venus 15h 40m 01s -19° 33' 24" mars 10h 31m 14s 9° 17' 34" jupiter 15h 58m 00s -20° 29' 07" saturn 06h 52m 45s 22° 53' 10" pluto 17h 50m 41s -17° 09' 09" As you can see, except for Pluto, they are nearly equal to those of François Degros. Then I killed KDE4 and the X server, I removed again ~/.kde4 to be sure to reset all the configuretion files, I exported LANG with: export LANG=en_US and then I launched the X server, KDE4 and kstars again. Here are the new results of the computation: sun 18h 45m 46s -23° 01' 34" moon 13h 21m 18s -13° 51' 38" mercury 19h 24m 33s -24° 11' 12" venus 16h 02m 13s -18° 37' 38" mars 05h 58m 31s 26° 56' 44" jupiter 18h 13m 42s -23° 14' 05" saturn 10h 42m 45s 9° 58' 40" pluto 17h 56m 03s -17° 11' 15" Now the positions seem correct! Please note that, before doing this experiment, I checked the decimal sepators in KDE4 in Computer->System Settings->Regional and language->Country/Region and language/Numbers, but simply setting '.' didn't worked (obviously I restarted kstars and kde4). I also confirm that, when planet positions are wrong, also the Solar System View is affected as reported by François Degros; instead, when the planet positions are right, the picture is smooth. I compiled and used the Kstars Subversion revision: 750245 with Linux 32 bit, gcc 4.2.2, glibc 2.7, qt 4.3.3, KDE 3.97.1. Thank you for your kind attention.
SVN commit 763142 by harris: I believe this fixes bug #154195, but I NEED someone with a non en_US localization to test it! I used QString::replace() to replae all "." with KLocale::decimalSymbol() when parsing data files. I did this for the Moon, planets, planet orbits (in the solar system tool), stars, asteroids, comets, and deep-sky objects. PLMK if I missed something! BUG: 154195 CCMAIL: kstars-devel@kde.org M +4 -0 ksmoon.cpp M +4 -0 ksplanet.cpp M +5 -0 skycomponents/asteroidscomponent.cpp M +4 -0 skycomponents/cometscomponent.cpp M +5 -0 skycomponents/deepskycomponent.cpp M +6 -1 skycomponents/starcomponent.cpp M +10 -5 tools/planetviewer.cpp WebSVN link: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=763142
I recompiled kdeedu after upgrading to revision 763142 using: svn update -r 763142 in the kdeedu source directory, but: -planets positions are right and solar system view is smooth if, before launching kstars, I type: export LANG=en_US -planets positions are wrong and solar system view is rough if, before launching kstars, I type: export LANG=it_IT Thank you for your interest and for your efforts!
I reopened the bug since, at least for me, unfortunately it has not been resolved, yet.
SVN commit 764110 by harris: Second attempt to fix bug #154195. Thanks for continued testing, please try this revision as well. I think/hope I have it this time. I am using QString::toDouble() instead of QTextStream::operator>> The API docs for toDouble specifically say it uses the local decimal setting, and if that doesn't work, it falls back to use ".", no matter what the locale uses for decimalSymbol(). Because of this fallback, I am not converting "." to decimalSymbol() anymore. In theory, it should still work now that I am using QString::toDouble(). CCBUG: 154195 M +21 -11 ksmoon.cpp M +8 -7 ksplanet.cpp M +1 -4 skycomponents/asteroidscomponent.cpp M +0 -2 skycomponents/cometscomponent.cpp M +0 -5 skycomponents/deepskycomponent.cpp M +1 -5 skycomponents/starcomponent.cpp M +7 -7 tools/planetviewer.cpp WebSVN link: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=764110
Great! It works! I checked planets coordinates calculated by kstars with those calculated by xephem 3.7.2 and they match. Also Solar System View now displays properly. Thank you very much for your excellent work! Have a nice day (and even a nice night)!
I can also confirm that all works fine now with Slovenian locale. Thanks Jason!
All right! Thanks for testing, everyone...
SVN commit 768484 by harris: Backporting final fix for bug #154195, just in time for 4,0,1 (sorry, I thought I had done it already). CCBUG: 154195 M +21 -11 ksmoon.cpp M +8 -7 ksplanet.cpp M +1 -4 skycomponents/asteroidscomponent.cpp M +0 -2 skycomponents/cometscomponent.cpp M +2 -7 skycomponents/deepskycomponent.cpp M +1 -5 skycomponents/starcomponent.cpp M +7 -7 tools/planetviewer.cpp WebSVN link: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=768484