Version: 0.9.2 (using KDE KDE 3.5.7) Installed from: Ubuntu Packages When you have split-view enabled, it is not easy to understand which is the active panel. Maybe the inactive panel should have the selected file in it just grayed out and not blue as the selected file of the active panel.
Actually the background of the inactive view is darkened. Should be do something more evident? Thanks for feedback!
Nothing is darkened here. I see that the title is changing, but it would *surely* be nice with better indications!
Anders, if I split the dolphin view (with the default oxygen style and colors) the active part has a white background, the inactive one is gray, so is more dark than the white :-) Aren't you seing the same?
Created attachment 24144 [details] Split view
I've added a screenshot to show that the inactive view is darker...
Thanks Peter, is exactly what I see. I set this report as "WORKSFORME" because the request is fullfilled (and the original reporter doesn't respond since december...).
Created attachment 24146 [details] dolphin window Sorry for not answering but I had some problems with my mail. I still believe there should be a change. Look at the attachment and see how difficult it is for the eye to spot the active window. Both panels have a selected item (blue). Shouldn't the left be grayed out?
@Yannis: Ah, now I see the issue: you are using the KDE 3 version of Dolphin. I know it has not communicated very well, but bugs.kde.org is only valid for the KDE 4 version of Dolphin where your problem has been solved already... The KDE 3 version is not maintained anymore, as we have too less developers for this.
On tirsdag 01 April 2008, Peter Penz wrote: > I've added a screenshot to show that the inactive view is darker... since the last week or so? Because it isn't here.
> Anders, if I split the dolphin view (with the default oxygen style and > colors) the active part has a white background, the inactive one is gray, > so is more dark than the white :-) > > Aren't you seing the same? I'm not using oxygen, which does not support light color schemes well. And if it is dependent on using a specific style or color scheme it is not good enough. And no, here there is no difference. Did the change happen very recently?
> since the last week or so? Because it isn't here. It's there since KDE 4.0... Could you please tell me which style you are using and attach a screenshot? The code in Dolphin should not depend on the current style or a specific color scheme, but maybe you are using a combination where Dolphin's code is not sufficient enough.
The style I am using is named 'Cleanlooks'. The color scheme is derived from oxygen, but with a very light (white) widget background.
Created attachment 24147 [details] dolphin with a split view. If there is a difference it's too subtle for me.
> The style I am using is named 'Cleanlooks'. > The color scheme is derived from oxygen, but > with a very light (white) widget background. Ah, this explains everything: it's not the style (I've tried it with Cleanlooks) but the color setting. Dolphin mixes the window background with the view background. If the colors are (nearly) the same, you won't see much difference. I've reopened this issue but I've to admit that it's not a high priority issue at the moment :-)
On tirsdag 01 April 2008, Peter Penz wrote: > I've reopened this issue but I've to admit that it's not a high priority > issue at the moment Well, well... As long as it will eventually be fixed I'm happy. Just out of curiosity: What is wrong with using the 'inactive' pallette? (although I'm not sure if that has a different view background)
> Just out of curiosity: What is wrong with using the 'inactive' pallette? AFAIK it is the same as the active palette per default. Also in any case I'd have to assure that even if the inactive palette is the same as the active palette that a difference can be seen.
Just added some votes, very easy to mistake the active panel.
Actually, the little Close icon on the toolbar changes. The red minus sign indicates which panel is active. However, you can only have two panels open at once. :-(
I'd like to add that even while using the Oxygen theme, it doesn't help matters that, when the mouse cursor is moved into the inactive pane, a blue box is drawn around the inactive pane, just as is drawn around the active (and not darkened) pane. It should only do that if you click in it (and thus cause it to become active). Observed in 4.5.0.
Resetting assignee to default as per bug #305719
Can this please get more votes?
I feel nowadays, this has improved and I would be in favor of resolving this issue.
(In reply to Méven Car from comment #22) > I feel nowadays, this has improved and I would be in favor of resolving this > issue. +1 I think we can close this one now.
A possible resolution would be to fix Bug 428440.
Well, evidently this is longstanding defect and not considered important. However, like other comments, I thought this issue was "good enuf" for closure, BUT, recently, this defect has become more severe. See http://www.linux-databook.info/downloads/Dolphin_guide.pdf, page 9, figure 3 for design intent which is apparently the inactive background should be dimmed. See this capture of Dolphin running in KDE Neon 5.20, https://i.imgur.com/Vi0ndlk.png. Oddly, the only control for the color of the inactive panel in KDE Neon 5.20 seems to be "Common Colors" / "Window Background", and the effect seems to be making the color of the inactive panel fall between the active panel and the window background. Quite the strange control. It would sure be nice if there were a more direct control. But, in an up-to-date Arch Linux, here is how they look (even with "Window Background" significantly darkened (https://i.imgur.com/KPiEqs4.png). I have experimented with ever other other color them adjustment w/o seeing any effect on the inactive panel. Of course, the leads to active / inactive panel confusion and mistakes using Dolphin, and thus I should hope this some attention. Thanks.
Created attachment 144303 [details] dolphin_default_settings_breeze_dark_theme You don't have this blueish box around the active panel? (see my attachement)
(In reply to Antonio Prcela from comment #26) > Created attachment 144303 [details] > dolphin_default_settings_breeze_dark_theme > > You don't have this blueish box around the active panel? (see my attachement) Yes, I see that (a.k.a., the "Focus Decoration"). And I see that the title of the panel is dimmed. And, for a dark theme, the Focus Decoration can be quite distinguishing, but many people don't like dark themes including me. For light themes, the focus decoration (because the line is so thin) is barely noticeable. For some dark/light themes, the "Hover Decoration" is similar to the "Focus Decoration" (e.g., shades of blue), and that lends to another source of confusion confusion. That is, at times both panels are similarly decorated. My suggestion is that there should be (configurable, at least) slap-in-the-face differences in the active/inactive panel so that even peripheral vision when, say, intending to search and looking for the magnifying glass that you know the target panel. And the dimmed background because of its size is most practical way to do that (and it was that way for years).
> For light themes, the focus decoration (because the line is so thin) is barely noticeable. Is it difficult to change this? I could guess that these lines are defined in a pixel count way. And now with these modern high res displays these lines become almost invisible. So, defining in a device independent way, like 0.3mm (or some inch don't know) may fix that.
I thought I'd join in to say that I've got a very thin bluish line around the active pane that I don't even notice and have to really look for. It's also easy to forget about it if you don't use the split view for a while. Nothing else visibly changes in the two panes. This is on Kubuntu 22.04 LTS and I'm using the Breeze global theme, Breeze application style, Breeze Plasma style, and Breeze window decorations. I, too, would like something more obvious to happen to let me know which is the active panel.