Bug 142853 - Different view settings on general level, on account level and on folder level
Summary: Different view settings on general level, on account level and on folder level
Status: RESOLVED WAITINGFORINFO
Alias: None
Product: kmail
Classification: Applications
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: 1.9.5
Platform: openSUSE Linux
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: kdepim bugs
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Reported: 2007-03-12 00:52 UTC by John
Modified: 2012-08-19 00:28 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Description John 2007-03-12 00:52:27 UTC
Version:           1.9.5 (using KDE KDE 3.5.5)
Installed from:    SuSE RPMs

Some settings controlling reading need to be set to a hierarchy. I have several email accounts, and I don't necessarily want to access them each using the same rules. Some of those addresses are specifically for use with mailing-lists, the one I'm using for this is for reporting bugs

Within each account, I may have numerous folders. Some are for mail from mailing lists, such as CentOS, RHEL5-beta-list and so on, mostly these are discussion lists, and I want to read them threaded.

OTOH, personal mail I want sorted in order of arrival, with the most recent at the top of the list. A stack, if you like.

What I think should be done is this:
1. Kmail have settings set by a user for all email. These would be defaults for the user.
2. Each account have overriding settings set by the user as defaults for this account
3. Each email folder have further settings set by the user to fine-tune how email for this folder is treated.

These settings should be accessible from a properties menu item for the particlar object. This doesn't preclude an on-screen facility to quickly change some properties such as c. below.

Settings that are obvious to me that need to be handled in this way include
a. Identity: most users can use email address of the form user+something@example.com and get incoming mail sorted properly. It needs to be easy to send _from_ the correct address.
b. Threading behaviour.
c. Viewing selection, to show or not show unread, and so on.
B. and c. might be combined as in the Mozilla family.
d. Selection of "reply to" address. Not all lists are standards-compliant, and not all list managers (the people, not the software) configure lists as I think they should.
This might be better handled in filtering except that I don't know that it would work well with imap.
e. The ability to not display some text in subject lines, mostly [this] which serves most to hide more useful stuff from the subject lines. It might be displayed on mouseover, in case there's ever something useful there:-)

a. is sort of done, but it's not done consistently. An email account is basically a special folder, and should generally be handled as one.
b. and c. are the biggest annoyances, and just about enough to stop me from using kmail (I use Thunderbird and Mozilla/Seamonkey more) because they do not persist, and if they did they'd often be wrong because I don't want all folders treated the same way.

d. & e. would go far to alleviate my grievances with many people who (mis)manage mailing lists.
Comment 1 Bram Schoenmakers 2007-05-15 12:50:59 UTC
Just another example how usability is abused for just a feature request. Adjusting title.
Comment 2 John 2007-05-15 14:26:33 UTC
I find your comment hurtful. The objective of my suggestions is to make kmail more usable. At the moment I find it somewhat painful and I mostly use other email clients in preference.

If you don't understand this point, I don't think you really understand what I am trying to say. My title accurately describes my preferences, and should not be regarded as an abuse of anything.
Comment 3 Bram Schoenmakers 2007-05-17 17:05:48 UTC
I have no problems with the suggestion itself, but the issue was more by labelling the suggestion as 'usability improvement'. Usability does equal adding more features. In fact, I think KMail's usability level would decrease somewhat, because it makes things a bit more complex. But I'm by no means a usability expert.

Again, I have nothing against the suggestion you've made. It's up to the developers to decide, though.
Comment 4 Myriam Schweingruber 2012-08-18 07:55:46 UTC
Thank you for your feature request. Kmail1 is currently unmaintained so we are closing all wishes. Please feel free to reopen a feature request for Kmail2 if it has not already been implemented.
Thank you for your understanding.
Comment 5 Luigi Toscano 2012-08-19 00:28:14 UTC
Instead of creating a new feature request, please confirm here if the wishlist is still valid for kmail2.