Bug 126713 - Display more information about element in table
Summary: Display more information about element in table
Status: REPORTED
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Product: kalzium
Classification: Applications
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: unspecified Linux
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Reported: 2006-05-04 10:30 UTC by dave
Modified: 2008-08-05 19:57 UTC (History)
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Description dave 2006-05-04 10:30:37 UTC
Version:           1.4.4 (using KDE 3.5.2, Kubuntu Package 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu13 dapper)
Compiler:          Target: i486-linux-gnu
OS:                Linux (i686) release 2.6.15-21-686

For learning the physics leading to this periodic table, and leading to certain behaviour of the elements, it is usefull to display more information directly in the table without any need to open an extra window. Now it is not possible to compare e.g. the ionisation energy of several elements at one glance.

For beginners/children the compact and simple table now is quite usefull, so make the shown information configurable, maybe with two or three choices (e.g. simple, and two more complex choices with more information).

Candidates for direct display: electronic configuration, Energy of first ionisation, Electronegativity, Oxidation state.
Comment 1 dave 2006-05-04 10:58:35 UTC
Another candidate is of course the name of the element.
Comment 2 dave 2006-05-04 11:09:59 UTC
Just found: this is a duplicate of #123032
Comment 3 Carsten Niehaus 2006-05-04 16:01:40 UTC
Could you make a graphical mockup: What should it look like? This helps the developers a lot because implementing the code is often very easy, but the design itself is the hard part.
Comment 4 Carsten Niehaus 2006-05-04 16:05:01 UTC
>Now it is not possible to compare e.g. the ionisation energy of several >elements at one glance. 

Isn't that possible with the gradients (comparison of the values)?

Also don't forget that you can plot the values.
Comment 5 dave 2006-05-05 08:52:26 UTC
>>Now it is not possible to compare e.g. the ionisation energy of several >>elements at one glance. 
>Isn't that possible with the gradients (comparison of the values)? 
>Also don't forget that you can plot the values. 
:) Yes, of course, but: You can compare only this single value between different elements, but not the relationsship between two values and several elements.

E.g.:
There are some basic, but interesting interrelations between e.g. energy of first ionisation and electronic configuration (or group). You need the exact values to do some fast rough calculations. With gradients displayed its not easy for beginners to know the group and electronic configuration at a glance. 

This helped me alot with understandig the pse, but I needed a printed version with several infos at once. I would love to use kalzium for this, as it has several really nice features.

I hope this is in graspable some way ;)

I will try and do a mockup, but as time permits it could last till next monday. Perhaps it will closly resemble existing printed pse's.
Comment 6 cniehaus 2006-05-05 09:14:22 UTC
> This helped me alot with understandig the pse, but I needed a printed
> version with several infos at once. I would love to use kalzium for this,
> as it has several really nice features.


Ok, now I understand. You want to compare *two* values. Yes, I am waiting for 
the mockup, lets see if we can do something for you, perhaps even for KDE 
3.5.4 in case we get a feature-exception :-)
Comment 7 Carsten Niehaus 2007-12-02 14:26:09 UTC
Any update here? Monday is over ;)
Comment 8 Carsten Niehaus 2008-08-05 19:57:23 UTC
Dave, any update here? I would like to add this for KDE 4.2 but need a better understanding of it, first.