Bug 122676 - MSN: Bug when working in "Invisible Mode"
Summary: MSN: Bug when working in "Invisible Mode"
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: kopete
Classification: Unmaintained
Component: MSN Plugin (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: Gentoo Packages Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Kopete Developers
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Reported: 2006-02-25 04:42 UTC by David
Modified: 2008-11-15 06:09 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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User online but "not reachable"? (167.28 KB, image/jpeg)
2006-02-27 01:02 UTC, David
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Error msg (99.05 KB, image/jpeg)
2006-02-27 01:20 UTC, David
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Description David 2006-02-25 04:42:14 UTC
Version:           Kopete-3.5.1 (using KDE KDE 3.5.1)
Installed from:    Gentoo Packages
OS:                Linux

Bug in kopete-3.5.1 when working in invisible mode.

When you try to start a conversation with someone (new conversation wich wasn't started yet) you get an error message saying that you cannot send messages to anybody when this person is offline, but this person is NOT offline, only you are the one who is in "invisible mode" but online...
Comment 1 Morten Sjoegren 2006-02-25 20:13:04 UTC
Thats normal MSN behavior. You can't send messenges over MSN, if you are invisible, at least not in the original MSN client.
Comment 2 Matt Rogers 2006-02-26 16:00:49 UTC
The error message says the person is not reachable, and we can't cover every single possible cause of them being not reachable in the error message.
Comment 3 David 2006-02-27 00:54:16 UTC
Please: see MSN 8 ;) (works sending messages to anyone online even if you are invisible.. Furthermore: The error is not telling that this person is not reachable, error is telling that 'can't send msg to offline people by MSN' even when this "people" is not offline.

You can still send msg if the conversation with the other person started before you set the "invisible mode".

To sum up, wouldn't be better to allow sending messages to every online people despite your status? And, why appears this error saying that this person if offline when is really online)?

Excuse me for the missunderstanding, maybe I explained it wrongly ;)
Comment 4 David 2006-02-27 01:02:52 UTC
Created attachment 14892 [details]
User online but "not reachable"?

Ok, I tested, the error "non reachable" is only applicable (as I was saying)
when working on invisible mode. You click same user in any other mode and you
can start a conversation. Is this the reason I thought it was a invisible mode
bug- (See the attachment, I clicked last user in the list)
Comment 5 David 2006-02-27 01:20:48 UTC
Created attachment 14893 [details]
Error msg

This is the error msg. It says: ... or wait until this user becomes online. And
this user is *already* online. When you are in any other status (busy,
online...) you don't see this msg and you can start a conversation with no
problems.
Comment 6 Paschalis Veskos 2006-07-18 18:26:08 UTC
why has this been marked resolved? you still can't send messages if *you* are invisible, unless you started a conversation with someone before becoming invisible. the native client allows for this, so why cant we?
Comment 7 Giulio 2006-11-26 17:34:27 UTC
Is this bug revolved? I have the same problem on 0.12.3 (kde 3.5.5) debian unstable. 
Comment 8 David 2007-08-09 02:16:14 UTC
I'll reopen this.

NORMAL BEHAVIOR OF ORIGINAL MSN CLIENT:

In invisible mode, you can chat with anyone,but they will see you as not connected, but once you've speaked with them once, and despite their client thinks you are not connected, they can speak with you.

There is a wrong handle about this in kopete. When you are in invisible mode, you can't start new conversations with anyone, and they say user is not reachable (wich is not true, because to solve this, you have just to change status to online). BUT: When you have started a conversation, if you change status to invisible, you can keep speaking with that opened conversation (this should be the default behaviour, allowing you to create connections with users despite your status while you are logged in, as it is in original client.)
Comment 9 David 2007-08-09 02:17:30 UTC
By the way, still reproducible in latest kopete 0.12.5 using kde 3.5.7!!
Comment 10 David 2007-09-07 02:47:04 UTC
This is quite old.. any news on this issue??
Comment 11 Matt Rogers 2007-09-26 04:11:47 UTC
no news. 
Comment 12 Gaurav Chaturvedi 2008-07-06 09:47:35 UTC
This behavior persists in Kubuntu kde4 beta2 (Kopete 0.50.80)
Comment 13 Ruud Koolen 2008-07-08 03:52:21 UTC
When disabling this check, msn throws 913 errors when trying to start a chat when invisible. I believe this used to be behavior of the official client until some recent version. Therefore, I suspect starting a chat while invisible is not allowed in the version of the msn protocol used by kopete, while it is allowed by the latest version of the msn protocol. If this is correct, kopete needs to upgrade to a newer version of the msn protocol to resolve this bug.
Comment 14 Matt Rogers 2008-11-15 06:09:09 UTC
We've completely replaced the current MSN implementation with a new MSN implementation which  If you continue to experience this bug after testing the new implementation (which can be gotten from our subversion repository or with the KDE 4.2 Beta 1 release), PLEASE, open a new bug rather than reopening this bug. Thank you for your time and efforting in helping us find and fix problems in Kopete.