Bug 105920 - No retry on password fail.
Summary: No retry on password fail.
Status: RESOLVED INTENTIONAL
Alias: None
Product: kopete
Classification: Applications
Component: MSN Plugin (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: Debian testing Linux
: NOR major
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Kopete Developers
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Keywords:
: 106262 (view as bug list)
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Blocks:
 
Reported: 2005-05-19 02:12 UTC by n/a
Modified: 2005-05-25 12:36 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Description n/a 2005-05-19 02:12:25 UTC
Version:           3.4 (using KDE KDE 3.4.0)
Installed from:    Debian testing/unstable Packages
Compiler:          N/A 
OS:                Linux

Hi my password for my MSN account keeps failing. It usually happens immediately after a reboot as I have Kopete set to start up with KDE. However sometimes if I try to connect maybe two or three times the password will succeed. I think there should be a way to set Kopete to tell it the default number of connection attempts to a particular account before it gives up and fails. Presently it appears to give up after only one failure.

GJ
Comment 1 Matt Rogers 2005-05-19 05:04:50 UTC
Yes, we all seem to be experiencing this now.
Comment 2 Thiago Macieira 2005-05-19 05:42:16 UTC
His is a different issue. He would just like the same password to be tried twice or thrice before reporting an error.

I don't think that's useful.
Comment 3 Matt Rogers 2005-05-19 05:59:10 UTC
hmm, yes, i don't think this is useful either. Sorry. Thanks for taking the time to submit a bug report though. :)
Comment 4 Olivier Goffart 2005-05-19 08:43:00 UTC
*** Bug 105929 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 5 n/a 2005-05-19 10:25:36 UTC
I don't understand why it isn't useful? As far as I know Msn messenger does something very similar. Could you please at least explain? All I know is that it isn't very useful (indeed it is really very annoying) to have to try two or three times or more manually to get this application to connect.

I won't reopen the bug, but simply closing it without any kind of explanation seems at best extremly impolite.

GJ
Comment 6 Olivier Goffart 2005-05-19 10:41:25 UTC
cf Bug 105929
and Bug 105912 
Comment 7 Engin AYDOGAN 2005-05-19 10:46:56 UTC
Please don't take it personal. What they probably mean is, retrying a password when it's supposed to be wrong is logically wrong. Why would a client re-try a password when it "thinks" it's wrong.
Comment 8 n/a 2005-05-19 11:23:09 UTC
But the password is correct - and on the second or third attempt without rentering the password it will connect.

As I said as far as I understand it, this is what MSN messenger does. It doesn't just give up on the first failure. It keeps trying periodically to connect. This may (at this stage) be a bug with the client - in which case logically no, it would not make sense to do this. What would make sense would be to fix the bug with the client. But there have been other times (particularly with MSN) when I have experienced genuine network outages - and it is at these times when retrying a connection a number of times on a periodical basis would be useful.

It seems trivialy annoying and a sensless waste of resources to have to manually have tell the client to keep trying to connect - particularly when there is a network failure.

Keep trying to connect (with  no visible error messages hopefully) every xyz minutes with a maximum of abc connection attempts seems like a very basic and very useable feature.

It is not my place to reopen the bug/wish, but I very much would appreciate it if the person who closed it would.

GJ
Comment 9 Engin AYDOGAN 2005-05-19 11:57:56 UTC
*** Bug 105948 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 10 Thiago Macieira 2005-05-20 13:53:00 UTC
There's a difference between retrying when connection fails, or when another temporary situation happens, and when the password is wrong.

I don't it is useful to retry a password that is known to be wrong. So this can't be the issue here.

However, before the fix that went in for the auth breakage, Kopete did think the password was wrong simply when the connection to Passport.net failed. It doesn't anymore, so the behaviour has changed. And, yes, it should retry if the connection failed.
Comment 11 chris 2005-05-22 15:57:15 UTC
I think that the multiple automatic attempt is not a bad idea, but i think a better one would be to fix the problem the right way sso it takes only one shot at login to work...
Comment 12 Andre Duffeck 2005-05-25 12:36:17 UTC
*** Bug 106262 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***