Bug 100483 - Wishlist: New KDE K-Menu
Summary: Wishlist: New KDE K-Menu
Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 104464
Alias: None
Product: kicker
Classification: Plasma
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: RedHat Enterprise Linux Linux
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Aaron J. Seigo
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Reported: 2005-02-28 21:33 UTC by Jeremy LaCroix
Modified: 2005-04-24 19:31 UTC (History)
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Description Jeremy LaCroix 2005-02-28 21:33:22 UTC
Version:            (using KDE KDE 3.3.92)
Installed from:    RedHat RPMs
OS:                Linux

KDE is going great and I love the new features, however one feature that has not been updated is the Kmenu. With all the cool ideas spreading around kde-look.org, I wonder why you guys haven't come up with a new Kmenu yet?

Take a look at this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=19908
That's an awesome Kmenu!!! It would really make your gui look better if you did something cool like that, what do you say?
Comment 1 Aaron J. Seigo 2005-02-28 22:30:42 UTC
changes to the k menu? sure.
like that? no.

there may be lots of cool ideas floating around out there but i have yet to see one that's original, really usable and/or has a patch attached to it ;)

i you have specific requests for the menu, other than the link you pointed to, please add them to this BR and i'll certainly consider them.
Comment 2 Jeremy LaCroix 2005-03-01 03:54:32 UTC
Thanks for the reply. Let me advise you that I am not anywhere close to being an artist or developer so I don't have the talents that you guys have. I can't draw anything.  Now, I don't want you to copy the idea that I posted above, the above was just an example of all the ideas there are in several places over the net, and also an example that more can be done with the Kmenu. My personal opinion is that the existing Kmenu looks the same as it has over the last several versions and is the only thing that hasn't gotten a facelift. 

I think it would be really cool for a new kmenu, whatever it is that you guys decide the kmenu should be.
Comment 3 Jeremy LaCroix 2005-03-01 04:06:27 UTC
Sorry but here is another example (and only example) maybe I should try to draw something?

http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=13101
Comment 4 Thiago Macieira 2005-03-01 04:22:19 UTC
Then don't draw. Express your wish the way you can.

Writing what you want, for instance, is a good approach.
Comment 5 Jeremy LaCroix 2005-03-01 06:12:03 UTC
You have a point, I will do the best I can.

1. I would put the run dialogue box within the kmenu. For example, you
won't have to click on run and then bring up the text box, the text box
would already show. (Very minor though)

2. I feel that the Kmenu icon should be either rectangular or oval. For
beginners, the K icon doesn't stand out to be what you want to click on
to get your main menu. If it was a different shape, whether that is
rectangle, oval, or what have you, to make it stand out as to what you
want to click on to bring up the menu. Text, such as "Menu"
"Applications" "Go" or "Launch" would suffice for making it stand out,
but there may be other ways of achieving this.

3. The user should be able to choose between the original Kmenu or the
new one, depending on their preference. The original would be the
standard one we have now, and the other option would be a new one.

4. Some ideas for the new kmenu would be one of the following. First,
perhaps most of the menus are hidden. Right now, as far as Fedora is
concerned, I have "All Applications" and "Actions" on mine personally.
While All Apps and Actions would still be there, instead of mousing over
to two or three sub menus to get to a certain app, list all the groups
right there. So right on the Kmenu, we have Games, Office, Internet, and
Sound, and All Applications, for example. Hovering your mouse over
Games, unhides the games menu automatically so underneath it you have a
list of your games. (Note: No submenus opened on the left or right
side). If the list is above 10 icons, then it would have an option
"More" that would actually open a submenu on the left. Note that the
most recent apps would always be unhidden on the top.

Another thing is that the Kmenu should be more "curvy". The rest of the
desktop has beautiful curved edges, and while the kmenu we have now does
too, it's not to the same extent as the rest of the gui.

Another way of doing this new Kmenu is perhaps to make the Kmenu appear
in two columns, rather than one. On the left perhaps a most used
applications listing, and also an "important apps" listing that has your
control center and things like that, and on the right the applications
that are optional that you installed yourself.

5. Where it says "KDE 3.4" on the side, that should be somewhere else,
because that makes it seem too much like Windows. Either on the top or
the bottom would work, or the user can put it back on the side (or
remove it) if they so choose.

Anyhow, I appreciate you giving me the chance to express myself. I feel
that the biggest things are the Kmenu icon and the kmenu layout. I think
the new Kmenu icon with KDE 3.4 is great, however my wife, whom is
inexperienced, took five minutes to find the "start menu" as she called
it, and I had to point it out to her. I wonder if any other new users
did the same thing?

Note that recent Linspire 5.0 screenshots have a Kmenu that stands out,
but it looks really ugly and stands out so much that it takes your
concentration off of anything else on the screen, I don't have in mind
anything THAT extreme.

On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 03:22 +0000, Thiago Macieira wrote:
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> ------- Additional Comments From thiago kde org  2005-03-01 04:22 -------
> Then don't draw. Express your wish the way you can.
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> Writing what you want, for instance, is a good approach.

Comment 6 Pau Capdevila 2005-04-18 09:03:18 UTC
Hi,

I find very unattractive the proposals seen in this bug report.
But yesterday I tested Suse liveDVD 9.3 and kmenu it's really good looking and very neat.

In my installations Kmenu is huge and entries are too near disallowing fast visualitzation. The too many entries maybe is only distro related sometimes I arrange it by hand but the default is very...let's say that usability word: bloated.

In fact Suse's Kmenu it's slightly modified only, not a new Kmenu. Icons are displayed bigger and there's more space between text. It also could be more than one Kmenu but for me the one we have now it's good enough.

Thank you anyway,

Pau
Comment 7 Aaron J. Seigo 2005-04-24 19:31:37 UTC

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 104464 ***