Version: (using KDE KDE 3.2.3) Installed from: Mandrake RPMs Compiler: gcc (GCC) 3.4.1 (Mandrakelinux 10.1 3.4.1-4mdk) OS: Linux Notes are a very useful place to store software serial numbers, bank details, password, ISP logon details. All of which are likely to be difficult to remember accurately but may only be required infrequently. It is also vital to keep it private. It would be very useful to have an 'add secure note' option or to be able to convert a note to 'secure' mode (and back). Being secure would encrypt and password protect the note. I don't think using the logon password by default would work, because not all users lock their screens when they leave their PCs running unattended or they may have auto logon enabled. Letting the user select their encryption type (maybe with a dropdown listing their private keys) and password would add a useful level of security. ps... might need a graphical differentiation to show which notes are secure (eg a padlock over the corner of the Knote icon)
> Notes are a very useful place to store software serial numbers, bank > details, password, ISP logon details. No, KWallet is a useful place to store that kind of thing. You can't encrypt scraps of paper, or Post-Its, can you?
No, KWallet is unintuitive and unusable or broken on my system. I can't say I understand how it works. I cannot get any actions on the manager panel, other than to make a new folder and I can't then find any way of putting things in the folders. Can't drag/drop to KWallet folders or from KWallet folders to anywhere else. It may be just what I need but with that level of usability, I may never know. As an occasional Outlook user and regular but frustrated Notes user, I know that I trust Notes to keep stuff safe but find Outlook post-its to be quicker and easier to use. My requirement was based on user experience and therefore a valid request. If KWallet integrates with KNotes, then I have the answer I need but it is not clear that it does??? (P.S. I have run 'real world' metaphor user objects research for IBM and understand (probably better than most) where the boundary lies between slavish reproduction of features that add no value (e.g. a leather look book cover on an e-book) and disregard for useful UI because it falls outside the chosen metaphor. The metaphor is a vehicle for a user to associate a package of functionality but that function need not be static. It may be reduced or enlarged, providing that it helps users associate a bunch of capabilities) Cheers, G On Sunday 27 Feb 2005 20:57, Thiago Macieira wrote: > ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- > You reported the bug, or are watching the reporter. > > http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100397 > > > > > ------- Additional Comments From thiago kde org 2005-02-27 21:57 ------- > > > Notes are a very useful place to store software serial numbers, bank > > details, password, ISP logon details. > > No, KWallet is a useful place to store that kind of thing. > > You can't encrypt scraps of paper, or Post-Its, can you?
Yes, I have this on my TODO list already. What I thought is using gpg for encryption of a note, this will be the most secure way of doing it.
I have managed to get KWallet working and it does seem like the right place for this sort of private/secure information BUT if the KWallet functionality could be surfaced as a Knote then I think honour would be satisfied on all fronts. I do think the usability is critical to making this (whatever solution) work properly. I'd be happy to offer my services to discuss and help design the details of the user interaction. Cheers, Greg (usability drone @ IBM) ps this would not constitute IBM work or IBM endorsement.
*** Bug 152434 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
could you integrate with kgpg? I would also suggest having a similar encrypt/decrypt/sign like the editor in kgpg has. I don't see kwallet as a complete solution, because it doesn't have a good direct user interface for adding miscellaneous sensitive information, although it should work for any password that you'll need on the computer. It could be a good backend to store the information or just for storing the password to the note. in response to comment 1 kwallet is like a safe, and we can write out passwords on sticky notes and put them in the safe, but we don't use the safe to write the information, or read it, just to secure it. alternatively we could write them out in the kgpg editor or, encrypt and print them, then ocr them when we need the info, but this isn't convenient either.