Created attachment 131413 [details] Invert scroll direction setting SUMMARY On OpenSuse Tumbleweed, toggling the "Invert scroll direction" option works great until you reboot. Then, the option shows as correctly enabled but won't actually work until you disable/re-enable the setting. Reboot. Rinse. Repeat. STEPS TO REPRODUCE 1. Enable "Invert scroll direction" 2. Confirm it works fine 3. Reboot 4. Confirm it no longer works 5. Disable/Re-enable "Invert scroll direction" 6. Confirm it works again OBSERVED RESULT Upon rebooting, "Invert scroll direction" no longer works. EXPECTED RESULT The "Invert scroll direction" option should work the same across reboots. SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS Windows: macOS: Linux/KDE Plasma: OpenSuse Tumbleweed (available in About System) KDE Plasma Version: 5.19.4 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.73.0 Qt Version: 5.15.0 ADDITIONAL INFORMATION N/A
X or wayland? Can I have output of sudo libinput list-devices
Sure! $ echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE x11 $ sudo libinput list-devices [sudo] password for root: sudo: libinput: command not found I see there's a package that might give you the information that you need, want me to install it or not having it could be related to having the issue to begin with? libinput-tools => Utilities to display libinput configuration
I figured I should just install and it did the trick $ sudo libinput list-devices Device: Power Button Kernel: /dev/input/event7 Group: 1 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: keyboard Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: n/a Nat.scrolling: n/a Middle emulation: n/a Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: none Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Accel profiles: n/a Rotation: n/a Device: Video Bus Kernel: /dev/input/event3 Group: 2 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: keyboard Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: n/a Nat.scrolling: n/a Middle emulation: n/a Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: none Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Accel profiles: n/a Rotation: n/a Device: Lid Switch Kernel: /dev/input/event5 Group: 3 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: switch Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: n/a Nat.scrolling: n/a Middle emulation: n/a Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: none Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Accel profiles: n/a Rotation: n/a Device: Sleep Button Kernel: /dev/input/event6 Group: 4 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: keyboard Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: n/a Nat.scrolling: n/a Middle emulation: n/a Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: none Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Accel profiles: n/a Rotation: n/a Device: Logitech Wireless Mouse M560 Kernel: /dev/input/event22 Group: 5 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: pointer Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: disabled Nat.scrolling: disabled Middle emulation: disabled Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: button Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Accel profiles: flat *adaptive Rotation: n/a Device: Yubico Yubikey 4 OTP+U2F+CCID Kernel: /dev/input/event4 Group: 6 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: keyboard Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: n/a Nat.scrolling: n/a Middle emulation: n/a Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: none Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Accel profiles: n/a Rotation: n/a Device: Logitech MX Keys Kernel: /dev/input/event23 Group: 7 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: keyboard pointer Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: disabled Nat.scrolling: disabled Middle emulation: disabled Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: button Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Accel profiles: flat *adaptive Rotation: n/a Device: Microsoft® LifeCam Cinema(TM): Kernel: /dev/input/event15 Group: 8 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: keyboard Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: n/a Nat.scrolling: n/a Middle emulation: n/a Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: none Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Accel profiles: n/a Rotation: n/a Device: Integrated Camera: Integrated C Kernel: /dev/input/event14 Group: 9 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: keyboard Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: n/a Nat.scrolling: n/a Middle emulation: n/a Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: none Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Accel profiles: n/a Rotation: n/a Device: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard Kernel: /dev/input/event0 Group: 10 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: keyboard Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: n/a Nat.scrolling: n/a Middle emulation: n/a Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: none Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Accel profiles: n/a Rotation: n/a Device: ThinkPad Extra Buttons Kernel: /dev/input/event8 Group: 11 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: keyboard Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: n/a Nat.scrolling: n/a Middle emulation: n/a Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: none Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Accel profiles: n/a Rotation: n/a Device: Synaptics tm2962-001 Kernel: /dev/input/event20 Group: 12 Seat: seat0, default Size: 97x67mm Capabilities: pointer gesture Tap-to-click: disabled Tap-and-drag: enabled Tap drag lock: disabled Left-handed: disabled Nat.scrolling: disabled Middle emulation: disabled Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: *two-finger edge Click methods: *button-areas clickfinger Disable-w-typing: enabled Accel profiles: flat *adaptive Rotation: n/a Device: TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint Kernel: /dev/input/event21 Group: 13 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: pointer Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: disabled Nat.scrolling: disabled Middle emulation: disabled Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: *button Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Accel profiles: flat *adaptive Rotation: n/a
>Nat.scrolling: disabled Well, that matches up with what you're seeing. After you reboot is it also showing up as disabled?
Before rebooting - Natural scrolling works fine. sudo libinput list-devices | grep -A16 "Logitech Wireless Mouse M560" Device: Logitech Wireless Mouse M560 Kernel: /dev/input/event22 Group: 5 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: pointer Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: disabled Nat.scrolling: disabled Middle emulation: disabled Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: button Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Accel profiles: flat *adaptive Rotation: n/a After rebooting - Natural scrolling no longer works $ sudo libinput list-devices | grep -A16 "Logitech Wireless Mouse M560" [sudo] password for root: Device: Logitech Wireless Mouse M560 Kernel: /dev/input/event23 Group: 5 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: pointer Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: disabled Nat.scrolling: disabled Middle emulation: disabled Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: button Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Accel profiles: flat *adaptive Rotation: n/a After fixing the issue with natural scrolling $ sudo libinput list-devices | grep -A16 "Logitech Wireless Mouse M560" Device: Logitech Wireless Mouse M560 Kernel: /dev/input/event23 Group: 5 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: pointer Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: disabled Nat.scrolling: disabled Middle emulation: disabled Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: button Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Accel profiles: flat *adaptive Rotation: n/a
That's not what I expected.
Me neither. I fight to see how natural scrolling could be working when the setting is never ever detected as enabled.
FYI yesterday I installed Manjaro and observed the same exact behavior happens except natural scrolling keeps working across reboots. $ sudo libinput list-devices | grep -A16 "Logitech Wireless Mouse M560" [sudo] password for anavarre: Device: Logitech Wireless Mouse M560 Kernel: /dev/input/event24 Group: 5 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: pointer Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: disabled Nat.scrolling: disabled Middle emulation: disabled Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: button Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Accel profiles: flat *adaptive Rotation: n/a
I just updated to plasma 5.22 and opted to start using Wayland. Natural Scrolling works fine on touchpads, but Invert Scroll Direction doesn't work for mice (I've tested on two different devices). The only difference for me, compared to the initial bug report, is that it actually never works. Not when selecting the option, and not on reboot.
Same problem here but using a trackball which is detected as a mouse, I have to reapply the settings every time I reboot. The natural scrolling is checked in the settings, but it doesn't work. The way to fix is to uncheck, apply, check again, and apply: Device: Power Button Kernel: /dev/input/event1 Group: 1 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: keyboard Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: n/a Nat.scrolling: n/a Middle emulation: n/a Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: none Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Disable-w-trackpointing: n/a Accel profiles: n/a Rotation: n/a Device: Power Button Kernel: /dev/input/event0 Group: 2 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: keyboard Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: n/a Nat.scrolling: n/a Middle emulation: n/a Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: none Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Disable-w-trackpointing: n/a Accel profiles: n/a Rotation: n/a Device: Topre REALFORCE 87 US Kernel: /dev/input/event15 Group: 3 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: keyboard Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: n/a Nat.scrolling: n/a Middle emulation: n/a Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: none Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Disable-w-trackpointing: n/a Accel profiles: n/a Rotation: n/a Device: Topre REALFORCE 87 US Consumer Control Kernel: /dev/input/event16 Group: 3 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: keyboard Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: n/a Nat.scrolling: n/a Middle emulation: n/a Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: none Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Disable-w-trackpointing: n/a Accel profiles: n/a Rotation: n/a Device: Topre REALFORCE 87 US Keyboard Kernel: /dev/input/event17 Group: 3 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: keyboard Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: n/a Nat.scrolling: n/a Middle emulation: n/a Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: none Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Disable-w-trackpointing: n/a Accel profiles: n/a Rotation: n/a Device: Kensington Expert Wireless TB Mouse Kernel: /dev/input/event18 Group: 4 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: pointer Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: disabled Nat.scrolling: disabled Middle emulation: disabled Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: button Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Disable-w-trackpointing: n/a Accel profiles: flat *adaptive Rotation: 0.0 Device: Kensington Expert Wireless TB Consumer Control Kernel: /dev/input/event19 Group: 4 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: keyboard Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: n/a Nat.scrolling: n/a Middle emulation: n/a Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: none Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Disable-w-trackpointing: n/a Accel profiles: n/a Rotation: n/a
Not sure if I should register it as a new bug, but I'm having a very similar issue. So similar I believe it is the same issue, but I'd be happy to make a new bug if that is preferred! I've tried on Solus, Fedora, Rocky Linux 8.6 and Arch - all using KDE Plasma. I don't have any issues with reboot, but every single update to KDE resets my natural scrolling. It's starts immediately after the update is installed, no reboot or anything required. I've had the issue for many versions of Plasma, for a year at least, but right now I am having the issue with todays update on Arch "plasma-workspace-5.25.3.1-2". Like everyone else, when enabled and working, "sudo libinput list-devices" shows "Nat.scrolling: disabled" After every single update on every distro i mentioned, I must go back into settings, disable the natural scrolling, and then re-enable again after every update to Plasma. I've had the same issue on two different HP laptops, a Lenovo laptop and a Dell laptop. While I use KDE Neon quite a bit, I only have it running on machines without a touchpad, so I do not know if it is the same here, but I'm at least pretty sure it is not distro specific anymore. System info: Operating System: Arch Linux KDE Plasma Version: 5.25.3 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.96.0 Qt Version: 5.15.5 Kernel Version: 5.18.14-arch1-1 (64-bit) Graphics Platform: X11 Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-8565U CPU @ 1.80GHz Memory: 15.4 GiB of RAM Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics 620 Manufacturer: HP Product Name: HP EliteBook 840 G6
Similar behaviour here - Kubuntu 22.04. Natural scrolling works when I enable it and it is also kept after reboot as long as the USB wireless dongle remains plugged in. However, if I plug in the USB wireless dongle for the mouse after the computer is up & running, the option "Invert scroll direction" is not applied to it despite the fact that the option remains "enabled" in SystemSettings // Input Devices // Mouse. The same problems happens for the "known" (previously used) and also for a new USB Wireless mouse. Disabling and re-enabling the option "Invert scroll direction" resolves the problem.
I can confirm this issue hits me since upgrading to Kubutnu 22.04 too - especially und Laptops, since I have to reset the scrolling direction after each wake-up from standby. It doesn't matter which mouse is connected. While on Kubuntu 20.04 I haven't had this issue.
Is bug 395722 related?
I also can confirm. Below is my `os-release` information. I worked around this by running `sudo ln -s /usr/X11/xorg.conf.d/40-libinput.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/40-libinput.conf` per this article: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Libinput#Via_Xorg_configuration_file ``` ➜ ~ cat /etc/os-release PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 22.04 LTS" NAME="Ubuntu" VERSION_ID="22.04" VERSION="22.04 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish)" VERSION_CODENAME=jammy ID=ubuntu ID_LIKE=debian HOME_URL="https://www.ubuntu.com/" SUPPORT_URL="https://help.ubuntu.com/" BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/" PRIVACY_POLICY_URL="https://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/privacy-policy" UBUNTU_CODENAME=jammy ➜ ~ uname -a Linux danielhaskin-LNX 5.15.0-43-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 12 10:30:17 UTC 2022 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux ``` I use X11 because I need Zoom. I don't know how this might be fixed on Wayland but that article did mention Wayland.
*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 435113 ***
It also un-applies the "invert mouse scroll" after coming back from sleep mode.
(In reply to Günter Dressel from comment #13) > I can confirm this issue hits me since upgrading to Kubutnu 22.04 too - > especially und Laptops, since I have to reset the scrolling direction after > each wake-up from standby. > It doesn't matter which mouse is connected. > While on Kubuntu 20.04 I haven't had this issue. I have the same problem. I have to un-check "invert mouse scroll" then apply, then check it back again, then apply. Very annoying.