Bug 101482 - imap resource groupware doesn't work with inline imap
Summary: imap resource groupware doesn't work with inline imap
Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME
Alias: None
Product: kmail
Classification: Applications
Component: IMAP (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: unspecified Linux
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Till Adam
URL:
Keywords:
: 103747 106881 (view as bug list)
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Blocks:
 
Reported: 2005-03-14 15:29 UTC by Stéphane Magnenat
Modified: 2012-06-09 09:54 UTC (History)
9 users (show)

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Description Stéphane Magnenat 2005-03-14 15:29:06 UTC
Version:           3.4 (using KDE 3.4.0, Debian Package 4:3.4.0-0pre1 (3.1))
Compiler:          gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8)
OS:                Linux (i686) release 2.6.9-1-686

With KDE 3.4 rc1 (Debian packages from http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.0/), groupware functionalities using imap resource do not work with online imap but works with disconnected imap.

If the folders are set to be shown, they appear and are filled by correct mails. But content only appear if mail are double-clicked (opened in their own window). In Kaddressbook, Calendar, Notes and TODO, nothing appear. The problem is the same given the attachment download is enabled or not.

With the same server and same KDE version, when using disconnect imap, it works.

Thanks,

Stephane Magnenat
Comment 1 Marcel van Osenbruggen 2005-03-18 21:25:11 UTC
I installed Fedora3 rpm's of 3.4 release and found out that this bug still exists.

I used the korganizer imap-resource in 3.3.2 and that worked fine with an online-imap account. After upgraded I discovered the above...
Comment 2 Stéphane Magnenat 2005-03-20 21:14:03 UTC
It also worked with 3.3.2 for me.

Stephane
Comment 3 Marcel van Osenbruggen 2005-03-20 21:21:25 UTC
Removing the dimap account, adding the imap account reproduces the problem :(

No contacts/appointments etc ...

Other 'bug' with dimap though is that it can't seem to 'remind' my password :-\
Comment 4 Jan de Visser 2005-03-21 02:42:56 UTC
For your information, see this discussion on the kde-pim dev list:

http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-pim&m=110358516023976&w=2

Comment 5 Stéphane Magnenat 2005-03-21 08:25:36 UTC
I would like to post a comment about what has been said in the mailing list, where the bug is acknowledged but the feature is regarded as mostly useless:
At home, I've a server, which is both my file and mail server. This server holds the imap server. My other computers mount /home from this server. If I use disconnected imap, the mails will be copied twice on the same HD in the server (once as imap files in ~/Maildir and once as disconnected imap in ~/.kde) after having moved through my home network. Of course, the network is fast (100MBps) so that's not a big issue, but as I have thousands of MB of mails, it looks like a waste of space imho.
Comment 6 Till Adam 2005-03-28 11:54:28 UTC
Well, you can always create an additional dimap account and subscribe it only to the groupwared folders. That way your groupware folders are cached, while the rest of your mail isn't. I'm changing this to a wish and assigning it to myself.
Comment 7 Stéphane Magnenat 2005-03-28 12:17:15 UTC
Hi,

Thanks for the tricks. It works, albeit there is still a small problem: groupware folders are children of inbox folder, but I can't unsubscribe from inbox. I've also an activities folder which has subfolders and I also can't unsubscribe to it. I've a theory: it is not possible to unsubscribe to folders which have children folders AND are not empty themself, even if no child is subscribed.

Thanks for help,

Steph
Comment 8 Enrique Iglesias 2005-03-29 09:00:25 UTC
Bug 101794 reported by me is the same as this (close that). Same thing with different distro.
Comment 9 Enrique Iglesias 2005-03-29 09:10:16 UTC
------- Additional Comment #5 From nct@ysagoon.com  2005-03-21 08:25 -------
> but as I have thousands of MB of mails, it looks like a waste of space imho.

The same for me. I have several Gb of stored mail and 100Mbps connection to the imap server.
Comment 10 Konrad Dear 2005-05-02 13:34:59 UTC
It appears that this feature is no longer supported.  It has been over a month now since this problem was identified.  And I am looking at alternatives.

Has everyone just converted to using dimap?  What has been people's experience in moving to a different system such as a proper kolab server / egroupware / opengroupware / anything else?  I just want something that's as easy to setup (single imap / smtp server) but is able to store contacts, tasks, calendar, etc and have them fully avaialable through kontact.

Personally I really liked the way imap-resources worked.  But alas :( ...
Comment 11 Andreas Gungl 2005-06-06 10:41:50 UTC
*** Bug 106881 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 12 Mathieu Jobin 2005-06-07 07:20:38 UTC
why is this got removed ? seriously....

Comment 13 Till Adam 2005-06-07 07:30:53 UTC
On Tuesday 07 June 2005 07:20, Mathieu Jobin wrote:
> why is this got removed ? seriously....


Please read the kde-pim@kde.org or kmail@kde.org archives, I've explained it 
several times at length there.

Cheers,

Till
Comment 14 Mathieu Jobin 2005-06-07 17:49:09 UTC
why is this bug has a status NEW then ?


Comment 15 Till Adam 2005-06-07 18:06:47 UTC
On Tuesday 07 June 2005 17:49, Mathieu Jobin wrote:

> ------- why is this bug has a status NEW then ?


Because I intend to fix it, some day.
Comment 16 Till Adam 2005-06-11 19:12:15 UTC
*** Bug 103747 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 17 Stéphane Magnenat 2005-07-23 11:11:56 UTC
"Well, you can always create an additional dimap account and subscribe it only to the groupwared folders. That way your groupware folders are cached, while the rest of your mail isn't. I'm changing this to a wish and assigning it to myself."

That works if you are only using kmail; but if you are also using other imap mail clients, such as squirrelmail for instance, there is a problem. Indeed such clients only display folders to whom you are subscribed, so the trick with the dimap account will prevent squirrelmail to display all folders.

Steph
Comment 18 Arne Schmitz 2006-11-21 13:19:05 UTC
Is something happening to this bug/wishlist item? It really is annoying at the moment, since dIMAP has been unstable for a while and I'm not sure if it is trustworthy now or not. Loosing our resources wouldn't be very nice...
Comment 19 Thomas Moschny 2008-10-24 18:04:54 UTC
Any progress here?

OTOH the concept of getting calendars etc. via kmail is broken anyway, because it limits you to one such source: You can't e.g. have a Kolab-Account *and* a Scalix-Account and use both calendars in kontact via kmail.
Comment 20 Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems) 2012-06-09 09:54:47 UTC
IIRC, groupware folder updates are triggered as changes to it are applied, and groupware folders are made to always have a local copy (dimap if you will).

Also, I found that I can in fact ubsubscribe the INBOX (local subscriptions and server-side subscriptions).

Both these issues appearing to have been resolved, I think this issue can be closed.