Bug 92863

Summary: kopete needs an away message manager
Product: [Unmaintained] kopete Reporter: Nicholas Pilon <npilon>
Component: libkopeteAssignee: Kopete Developers <kopete-bugs-null>
Status: RESOLVED FIXED    
Severity: wishlist CC: denilsonsa, luke-jr+kdebugs, sknauert
Priority: NOR    
Version First Reported In: unspecified   
Target Milestone: ---   
Platform: Debian testing   
OS: Linux   
Latest Commit: Version Fixed/Implemented In:
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Attachments: Patch for editing previous away message, and copy sombody's away message

Description Nicholas Pilon 2004-11-07 18:44:42 UTC
Version:            (using KDE KDE 3.3.0)
Installed from:    Debian testing/unstable Packages
OS:                Linux

The current version of kopete does not appear to have a manager for away messages. Instead, it appears to preserve only the last X messages used. This manager does not have to be complicated - even just a simple list of away messages and associated message texts with buttons to add/remove messages would work. See gaim for an excellent example.
Comment 1 David Laban 2005-12-08 17:30:06 UTC
Gaim away message manager is something that even the Gaim devels hate. I heard somewhere that they're planning to get rid of it for Gaim 2.0. It would be interesting to see what they replace it with.
Comment 2 Alex Bax 2005-12-27 06:14:48 UTC
 	 110585   	 cannot delete the away message i wanna

This bug is also talking about the same thing. 
Comment 3 yohann coppel 2006-01-20 22:01:23 UTC
*** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. ***
Comment 4 Matt Rogers 2006-09-01 01:23:22 UTC
*** Bug 133355 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
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Comment 6 Degand Nicolas 2006-09-02 00:27:14 UTC
I would hate to take the gaim road for this (haven't looked at away messages in gaim 2.0 though). The current system is quick and simple. I do not need a title, the actual message is self-explanatory. I would have to spare time to find a title. The real problem is that the away message seems to stay as a presence message in some protocols (such as msn), but let's keep that for another bugreport. Please keep the system as it is now. It works great !
Comment 7 Scott Knauert 2006-09-02 03:53:49 UTC
What I'm thinking of an away manager in the sense like the AIM official client 4.x series. Message management that isn't intrusive. If the default was to make the title the message and save in the message history, you could have the exact same functionality you do now. 

However, the main issue here I feel is that kopete was designed for very short  away messages. Messages over (32 I think) chars don't fit in the dialogue box without scrolling (I especially don't like that the LineEdit widget moved into the Set Status Message button for 0.12, sorry) so that you can't easily preview, edit, spellcheck, etc. your away messages. 

I think the ideally the next version should move back into a dialogue box, use a TextEdit widget (automatically transforming \n into <br> though more HTML support would be nice via the same optional toolbars already used in chat), let the whole box be resizable (though default to a sane size for new mesages, say four lines 32 chars wide), and have a checkbox for saving the message. If you typed a short message and didn't bother to uncheck or give it a title, you'd notice no difference from the 0.11 series. Similarly, adding the ability to right click with a rename/ delete from your history from the Set Status Message button would be a welcome subtle feature you didn't have to use. Truthfully if my skills were better I'd fire up QT designer and try to do some mockups, but hopefully my description might allay some fears if not help inspire some devs. 

A good optional addition would be a set of away message controls in the away tab of Behavior which basically repeat the functionality described above but put it all in one window for both convenience and the fact some people actually come up with a number of potential away messages at once. It would be nice to be able to load them up and view past messages in entirety without actually going away. Remember, this isn't GNOME, we can have more than one way to do something, and have it be a good thing. 

Sorry for the rant.

As far as the persistent away message bug, if you have a number I'll go vote for that feature also.
Comment 8 Witold Sowa 2008-01-10 17:13:55 UTC
Created attachment 22942 [details]
Patch for editing previous away message, and copy sombody's away message

usage:
in kopete source directory:
patch -p1 < path_to_patchfile
Comment 9 Dennis Nienhüser 2008-06-27 22:35:05 UTC
*** Bug 94486 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 10 Dennis Nienhüser 2008-06-27 22:40:58 UTC
Kopete in KDE 4.1 includes a flexible status manager.