Bug 82488

Summary:	Complete lack of separators within toolbars in KDE apps
Product:	[Unmaintained] kdelibs	Reporter:	Eduardo Robles Elvira <edulix>
Component:	general	Assignee:	Stephan Kulow <coolo>
Status:	RESOLVED FIXED
Severity:	normal
Priority:	NOR
Version:	3.2.2
Target Milestone:	---
Platform:	RedHat Enterprise Linux
OS:	Linux
Latest Commit:		Version Fixed In:
Sentry Crash Report:
Attachments:	Here is shown the empty separators that most apps use. The example is a konqueror' screenshot Here is shown the visible and practical line separators that (only?) kopete uses

Description Eduardo Robles Elvira 2004-05-30 12:06:15 UTC

Version:            (using KDE KDE 3.2.2)
Installed from:    RedHat RPMs

I've not seen yet a KDE app with separators within its toolbars. I know they exist, because I can use separators in Konqueror bookmarks :-). Let's use Kate as an example; it has 16 icons in the Main toolbar... I belive that:
  
  - Despite they are "main" buttons and because of that all of them are in the main toolbar, they can be categorised.
  - Categorise the icons with separators make the user experience better, and it's not difficult at all for the developer.

Note: I reported first this problem to kdevelop in bug #82311, but then I noteiced that it happens in every kde app.

Comment 1 Eduardo Robles Elvira 2004-05-30 12:08:33 UTC

I'm sorry this has been reported to kile ! I selected "user interface" in the list, but apparently there's a bug in the bug reporting page... please can someone move this to where it shoudl be ? BTW, it's not a bug but a wish :-P.

Comment 2 Jeroen Wijnhout 2004-05-30 12:12:52 UTC

You filed it as a 'Kile-User Interface' bug, that's why it appeared as a Kile bug. I can tell you that there are separator in the menus and toolbars, however by default they are almost invisible (that is, that create some extra spacing but no "line").

I will reassign this to the kde libraries.

best,
Jeroen

Comment 3 Eduardo Robles Elvira 2004-05-30 17:58:41 UTC

Jeroen:

Thanks for your comment and support! I noticed that as you said, there are different (larger) spaces between some icons. 

In Kopete conversation window, in the main toolbar, there are "line" separators. I think that that kind of separators should be the default ones; the other kind (small blank space) is not noticed even when you look for them.

I'll try to add an attachement that shows the difference between the two kind of separators.

Comment 4 Maksim Orlovich 2004-05-30 20:59:44 UTC

Nothing to do with KStyle. Apps' .rc files just list empty separators

Comment 5 Eduardo Robles Elvira 2004-05-31 10:05:23 UTC

Created attachment 6199 [details]
Here is shown the empty separators that most apps use. The example is a konqueror' screenshot

Comment 6 Eduardo Robles Elvira 2004-05-31 10:08:31 UTC

Created attachment 6200 [details]
Here is shown the visible and practical line separators that (only?) kopete uses

Comment 7 Eduardo Robles Elvira 2004-05-31 10:19:58 UTC

Maksim Orlovich:

> Nothing to do with KStyle.
What does that mean ? Sorry, I don't quite understand your post. 

> Apps' .rc files just list empty separators 
Whatever, IMHO every separator should be visible and noticeable by the user, so that it's not useless. Thus, the empty separators should be interpreted as line separators (the ones shown in the second attachment), everytime. 

What do you think about this idea ?

Comment 8 Stephan Binner 2004-06-13 09:08:14 UTC

Line separators are now default in HEAD.