| Summary: | Suppress tooltip when its text would be identical to the visible text | ||
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| Product: | [Plasma] plasmashell | Reporter: | Jan Bidler <janbidler00> |
| Component: | System Tray | Assignee: | Plasma Bugs List <plasma-bugs> |
| Status: | RESOLVED FIXED | ||
| Severity: | wishlist | CC: | materka, nate |
| Priority: | NOR | Keywords: | usability |
| Version: | 6.2.0 | ||
| Target Milestone: | 1.0 | ||
| Platform: | Arch Linux | ||
| OS: | Linux | ||
| Latest Commit: | https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/commit/75bf470e650b5596f65af05508dcf780cfcf728e | Version Fixed In: | 6.2.4 |
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Description
Jan Bidler
2024-10-10 16:12:28 UTC
It's up to each individual widget or app to set sensible tooltip text. Most do, at least for my System Tray. A lot of your examples do seem useful to me. But I agree that "Wayland to X11 Video Bridge" is not useful. I foresee two things we can do here: 1. For software under our control, give it a better tooltip! 2. In the System Tray, suppress any tooltip whose text is identical to the visible text. This should prevent the issue for 3rd-party apps not under our control. Let's use this bug report for #2. For #1, can you open new bug reports for every kde app or widget whose tooltip doesn't feel useful to you? Note that surfacing usage hints in the tooltip is definitely intentional; this is even the original usage of tooltips, in fact. So I don't foresee us removing that stuff. > Let's use this bug report for #2. For #1, can you open new bug reports for every kde app or widget whose tooltip doesn't feel useful to you? I'm fine with that. Will try to do that within the next couple of days > In the System Tray, suppress any tooltip whose text is identical to the visible text. How exactly would this deal with third party applications? If you have e.g. Steam, which (afaik) can't set its own tooltip. Would it just not display any tooltip at all, or would it show something like "Options for Steam" instead? Because if no tooltip would show, that would be strange. > Note that surfacing usage hints in the tooltip is definitely intentional; [...] So I don't foresee us removing that stuff. Yeah I'm fine with that. It just personally feels *slightly* off to me, but I also have no clue on how to improve it. Should I find that out, I'll submit that somewhere visible. Oops, I didn't mean to mark this as resolved, sorry. > > In the System Tray, suppress any tooltip whose text is identical to the visible text.
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> How exactly would this deal with third party applications? If you have e.g.
> Steam, which (afaik) can't set its own tooltip. Would it just not display
> any tooltip at all, or would it show something like "Options for Steam"
> instead? Because if no tooltip would show, that would be strange.
We could just have no tooltip, yeah. If the app doesn't give us any text worth showing, I don't think there's any reason to show it anyway or try to manufacture something ourselves.
A possibly relevant merge request was started @ https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/merge_requests/4915 Git commit 83f83a07c5a91db19244a982d870898923f9fc3d by Nate Graham. Committed on 15/11/2024 at 16:54. Pushed by ngraham into branch 'master'. applets/systemtray: suppress useless tooltips A tooltip is useless when its text is 100% identical to the visible text of whatever you're hovering the pointer over. Let's not show them. We'll still show the tooltip if its text is different in any way, just not if it's identical. FIXED-IN: 6.2.4 M +1 -1 applets/systemtray/package/contents/ui/items/PlasmoidItem.qml M +1 -0 applets/systemtray/package/contents/ui/items/StatusNotifierItem.qml https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/commit/83f83a07c5a91db19244a982d870898923f9fc3d Git commit 75bf470e650b5596f65af05508dcf780cfcf728e by Nate Graham. Committed on 15/11/2024 at 17:57. Pushed by ngraham into branch 'Plasma/6.2'. applets/systemtray: suppress useless tooltips A tooltip is useless when its text is 100% identical to the visible text of whatever you're hovering the pointer over. Let's not show them. We'll still show the tooltip if its text is different in any way, just not if it's identical. FIXED-IN: 6.2.4 (cherry picked from commit 83f83a07c5a91db19244a982d870898923f9fc3d) Co-authored-by: Nate Graham <nate@kde.org> M +1 -1 applets/systemtray/package/contents/ui/items/PlasmoidItem.qml M +1 -0 applets/systemtray/package/contents/ui/items/StatusNotifierItem.qml https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/commit/75bf470e650b5596f65af05508dcf780cfcf728e A possibly relevant merge request was started @ https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/merge_requests/4919 |