Bug 493554

Created attachment 174007 [details]
showing icons moving

Screens before, and at next day, and next day

How did you manage to get Plasma 5.27 on Fedora KDE 40?

Do you need any further information, why anyone would mandate a move to Wayland when it doesn't work is beyond me.

I'm asking about the process by which you accomplished this, because to my knowledge Fedora 40 doesn't support Plasma 5.27. If I'm correct and you managed to force it in there through extraordinary means, then I'm afraid KDE won't be able to offer support, because iIt becomes quite possible that any weird random issues you're seeing are the result of components that were not designed to work together being forced to anyway. In this case, you become the system integrator, and responsibility for debugging issues falls on your own shoulders.

Mr. Graham,

I did the upgrade from the Fedora site from Fedora 39 to Fedora 40, so I got whatever Red Hat - Fedora is distributing.  What should I do to make the system supportable?  I did what I normally do to upgrade to the latest release.  I would appreciate your comments on this method of upgrading and suggestions for what I should try.

There are Wayland-X11 patches that Fedora distributes to make systems still work after the upgrade. 

I still don't understand how a major factor in Linux, such as KDE can embrace MAJOR changes to the system that Break working Systems, your comments are welcome.

Thank you for your comments so far.
John A. Ward

> On 09/30/2024 4:40 PM EDT Nate Graham <bugzilla_noreply@kde.org> wrote:
> 
>  
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=493554
> 
> --- Comment #4 from Nate Graham <nate@kde.org> ---
> I'm asking about the process by which you accomplished this, because to my
> knowledge Fedora 40 doesn't support Plasma 5.27. If I'm correct and you managed
> to force it in there through extraordinary means, then I'm afraid KDE won't be
> able to offer support, because iIt becomes quite possible that any weird random
> issues you're seeing are the result of components that were not designed to
> work together being forced to anyway. In this case, you become the system
> integrator, and responsibility for debugging issues falls on your own
> shoulders.
> 
> -- 
> You are receiving this mail because:
> You reported the bug.

Mr. Graham,

I didn't mention that I used the DNF method, somebody should look into that. It sounds like DNF didn't replace KDE with the new version?

John

> On 10/01/2024 3:03 PM EDT John A. Ward <bugzilla_noreply@kde.org> wrote:
> 
>  
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=493554
> 
> --- Comment #5 from John A. Ward <john@mbstemps.com> ---
> Mr. Graham,
> 
> I did the upgrade from the Fedora site from Fedora 39 to Fedora 40, so I got
> whatever Red Hat - Fedora is distributing.  What should I do to make the system
> supportable?  I did what I normally do to upgrade to the latest release.  I
> would appreciate your comments on this method of upgrading and suggestions for
> what I should try.
> 
> There are Wayland-X11 patches that Fedora distributes to make systems still
> work after the upgrade. 
> 
> I still don't understand how a major factor in Linux, such as KDE can embrace
> MAJOR changes to the system that Break working Systems, your comments are
> welcome.
> 
> Thank you for your comments so far.
> John A. Ward
> 
> > On 09/30/2024 4:40 PM EDT Nate Graham <bugzilla_noreply@kde.org> wrote:
> > 
> >  
> > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=493554
> > 
> > --- Comment #4 from Nate Graham <nate@kde.org> ---
> > I'm asking about the process by which you accomplished this, because to my
> > knowledge Fedora 40 doesn't support Plasma 5.27. If I'm correct and you managed
> > to force it in there through extraordinary means, then I'm afraid KDE won't be
> > able to offer support, because iIt becomes quite possible that any weird random
> > issues you're seeing are the result of components that were not designed to
> > work together being forced to anyway. In this case, you become the system
> > integrator, and responsibility for debugging issues falls on your own
> > shoulders.
> > 
> > -- 
> > You are receiving this mail because:
> > You reported the bug.
> 
> -- 
> You are receiving this mail because:
> You reported the bug.

Are you 100% positive you've actually got Plasma 5.27, and not 6.1?

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You are correct, my error on reporting, also working on Fedora 39 install.  The Fedora 40 is KDE 6.xx and problem is still critical, I have noticed that one time, the next morning after doing update, reboot, re-arrange icons. the previous day it was ok the next morning, then I started vnc and then the problem returned.  I use an 'older' version of vnc, from

Is the system a desktop, or a laptop?

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> days. Please provide the requested information, then set the bug status to
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KDE has said the bug is fixed in 6.3, but doing a dnf upgrade hasn't gotten that change yet so I can't verify that problem has been solved, I will respond again when the 6.3 KDE is in Fedora update.  Thank You John

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I have been doing updates basically every day, the KDE version is 6.2.3 and the problem is still there.  There was a message that the problem has been solved in Version 6.3.x, is Fedora going to include the update OR is there some other way to get the update. I have been in this process for close to 3 months and have had to update the computers  I hope to sell with Fedora 39, which of course is kind of unsupported now.  Thank You for your efforts.  John

(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #2)
> How did you manage to get Plasma 5.27 on Fedora KDE 40?

Nate, as I wrote earlier, my fault I looked at a fedora 39 computer, the Fedora 40 is currently 6.2.3

(In reply to Bug Janitor Service from comment #13)
> 🐛🧹 ⚠️ This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least 15
> days. Please provide the requested information, then set the bug status to
> REPORTED. If there is no change for at least 30 days, it will be
> automatically closed as RESOLVED WORKSFORME.
> 
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> https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Bug_triaging.
> 
> Thank you for helping us make KDE software even better for everyone!

Still doesn't work and current version is 6.2.3

6.2.3 is less than 6.3.0, so logically, yeah, you don't have the change that's supposed to fix it.

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🐛🧹 This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least 30 days. Closing as RESOLVED WORKSFORME.