| Summary: | Feature: Improve contextual menus by switching some functions to toggle (this shortens menu and generates less shortcut keys) | ||
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| Product: | [Applications] kdenlive | Reporter: | kaixogamorra2 |
| Component: | Timeline & Editing | Assignee: | Jean-Baptiste Mardelle <jb> |
| Status: | NEEDSINFO WAITINGFORINFO | ||
| Severity: | wishlist | CC: | berndmj, fritzibaby, luzpaz |
| Priority: | NOR | Keywords: | triaged, usability |
| Version First Reported In: | unspecified | ||
| Target Milestone: | --- | ||
| Platform: | unspecified | ||
| OS: | Linux | ||
| Latest Commit: | Version Fixed/Implemented In: | ||
| Sentry Crash Report: | |||
| Attachments: | olive screenshot | ||
Good point. What would be the disadvantage to change to a toggle behavior: group/ungroup with the CTR + G ? (In reply to emohr from comment #1) > Good point. What would be the disadvantage to change to a toggle behavior: > group/ungroup with the CTR + G ? The main disadvantage is that if you had e.g. 2 tracks that are grouped, and would like to add another one to that group, you'd need to first degroup the whole and group them all again. But this could easily be solved through keyboard shortcuts for power users (I don't think they'd use the context menu a lot anyway since shortcuts are faster). In exchange, you'd have more space for valuable options and better clarity. (In reply to kaixogamorra2 from comment #2) > The main disadvantage is that if you had e.g. 2 tracks that are grouped, and would like to add another one to that group, you'd need to first > degroup the whole and group them all again. But this could easily be solved through keyboard shortcuts for power users (I don't think > they'd use the context menu a lot anyway since shortcuts are faster). In exchange, you'd have more space for valuable options and better > clarity. First of all, tracks cannot be grouped. Only clips (even in different tracks) can be grouped. Secondly, you can add clips to an existing group by selecting the group, hold Shift and select the clip, then right-click and select Group Clips. However, taking only one clip or several clips out of a group is indeed more complicated as it involves ungrouping every clip and then selecting those again that need to stay in the group and group them again. Here, it would help if a selected clip has a context menu with an Ungroup otion if the clip is part of a group. Wouldn't it be possible to select multiple clips and degroup them all at once? (In reply to Bernd from comment #3) > (In reply to kaixogamorra2 from comment #2) > > The main disadvantage is that if you had e.g. 2 tracks that are grouped, and would like to add another one to that group, you'd need to first > > degroup the whole and group them all again. But this could easily be solved through keyboard shortcuts for power users (I don't think > > they'd use the context menu a lot anyway since shortcuts are faster). In exchange, you'd have more space for valuable options and better > > clarity. > > First of all, tracks cannot be grouped. Only clips (even in different > tracks) can be grouped. Secondly, you can add clips to an existing group by > selecting the group, hold Shift and select the clip, then right-click and > select Group Clips. > However, taking only one clip or several clips out of a group is indeed more > complicated as it involves ungrouping every clip and then selecting those > again that need to stay in the group and group them again. Here, it would > help if a selected clip has a context menu with an Ungroup otion if the clip > is part of a group. Yes indeed, that would help! How would you remove the group as a whole then? Add another "Delete / Undo group"? Or you'd be forced into selecting every clip that is part of the group? May not be best for large projects. Discussion should be continued + could someone kindly suggest a less generic title for this ticket? That would be helpful. Title: Switch some functions to toggle. To shorten menu and get less short-key. 🐛🧹 ⚠️ This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least 15 days. Please provide the requested information, then set the bug status to REPORTED. If there is no change for at least 30 days, it will be automatically closed as RESOLVED WORKSFORME. For more information about our bug triaging procedures, please read https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Bug_triaging. Thank you for helping us make KDE software even better for everyone! |
Created attachment 172275 [details] olive screenshot SUMMARY Kdenlive currently has two different buttons for grouping/degrouping tracks. This makes it hard to work on the editor as you need to explicitly select to either group or de-group. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION Compare this to e.g. open source editor Olive, which has a single button: Link / Unlink. Their menu context occupies about the same size and has about the same quantity of buttons. But because