Bug 486742

Summary:	Volume increase/decrease sound effect persists after disabling sound theme
Product:	[Plasma] plasmashell	Reporter:	madonuko
Component:	Audio in general	Assignee:	Plasma Bugs List <plasma-bugs>
Status:	CONFIRMED ---
Severity:	minor	CC:	bugs_kde_org.5.kuru, curvature.gossip862, dev.ked, isma.af, nate
Priority:	NOR	Keywords:	usability
Version First Reported In:	6.2.4
Target Milestone:	1.0
Platform:	Fedora RPMs
OS:	Linux
Latest Commit:		Version Fixed In:
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Description madonuko 2024-05-07 16:08:47 UTC

SUMMARY
If you disable system sound themes, you will still get the sound effect from the theme you've last chosen in settings when you increase / decrease volume using the corresponding keyboard buttons.


STEPS TO REPRODUCE
1. Settings > Colors and Themes > System Sound > (disable top right toggle button) Enable Notification Sound
2. Try inserting and removing USB drives. No sound effects will be emitted. 
3. Try increasing / decreasing the system volume using the keyboard buttons.

OBSERVED RESULT
You'd hear the sound effects that correspond to the last sound theme you've chosen before disabling them. For example, if you chose Ocean and you disabled it, you'd hear the new unfamiliar sound effect even after you've disabled it via the toggle button. If you've chosen Oxygen / Freedesktop, you'd hear the water droplet -ish effect after disabling.


EXPECTED RESULT
No sound effect would be emitted.


SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS
Linux/KDE Plasma: Ultramarine Linux 40 (KDE Plasma Edition)
KDE Plasma Version: 6.0.4
KDE Frameworks Version: 6.1.0
Qt Version: 6.7.0

Comment 1 Ismael Asensio 2024-07-21 21:24:23 UTC

*** Bug 489466 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 2 BOF 2024-10-27 20:14:46 UTC

I have the same issue: Disabling system sounds in the settings menu does not disable the sounds for changing the volume

The strange thing: I didn't ever activate the system sounds. After the update to KDEneon 6.2 and upgrade to Ubuntu 24.04 LTS the system sounds suddenly activated (or maybe started to work? - I didn't disable them after they got included with 6.0(?) ).

Operating System: KDE neon 6.2
KDE Plasma Version: 6.2.2
KDE Frameworks Version: 6.7.0
Qt Version: 6.7.2
Kernel Version: 6.8.0-47-generic (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: Wayland
Processors: 12 × AMD Ryzen 5 7530U with Radeon Graphics
Memory: 29.2 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: AMD Radeon Graphics
Manufacturer: LENOVO
Product Name: 21KK
System Version: ThinkBook 16 G6 ABP

Comment 3 Ismael Asensio 2024-10-27 20:58:28 UTC

This is, at least for now. intentional. 

The volume feedback sound does not uses the setting on "System Sounds" because it is not considered a "notification" sound as such, but a custom setting.  It can be disabled in the "Sound" settings "Configure Volume Controls" -> and disable the checkbox for "Play Feedback Sound". 

Now I know the situation is not ideal, and it's not technically hard to make it follow the general setting instead of the custom one, but some users may just want this indicator and not the general notification ones, so it has to be thought out.

Comment 4 Nate Graham 2024-10-28 14:55:37 UTC

Yeah, the UX issue here is that the user doesn't know what constitutes a "notification sound". Turning them off keeps the volume feedback sounds, custom sounds from Telegram and Discord on new message, etc. We may need to surface a longer explanation somewhere.

Comment 5 Ryan Cool 2025-03-31 14:06:30 UTC

(In reply to Ismael Asensio from comment #3)
> This is, at least for now. intentional. 
> 
> The volume feedback sound does not uses the setting on "System Sounds"
> because it is not considered a "notification" sound as such, but a custom
> setting.  It can be disabled in the "Sound" settings "Configure Volume
> Controls" -> and disable the checkbox for "Play Feedback Sound". 
> 
> Now I know the situation is not ideal, and it's not technically hard to make
> it follow the general setting instead of the custom one, but some users may
> just want this indicator and not the general notification ones, so it has to
> be thought out.

I have "Play audio feedback for changes to: Audio volume" disabled and I still hear the notification sound every time I raise or lower the volume. This issue is persisting for me on:

Operating System: Arch Linux 
KDE Plasma Version: 6.3.3
KDE Frameworks Version: 6.12.0
Qt Version: 6.8.3
Kernel Version: 6.13.8-arch1-1 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: Wayland
Processors: 16 × AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 8840U w/ Radeon 780M Graphics
Memory: 30.0 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: AMD Radeon Graphics
Manufacturer: LENOVO
Product Name: 21MDS1R200
System Version: ThinkPad T14 Gen 5