Bug 464533

Summary:	Questions and Observations
Product:	[Applications] plasma-systemmonitor	Reporter:	betlogbetlog
Component:	general	Assignee:	KSysGuard Developers <ksysguard-bugs>
Status:	RESOLVED NOT A BUG
Severity:	normal	CC:	ahiemstra, p.r.worrall, plasma-bugs-null
Priority:	NOR
Version First Reported In:	5.24.4
Target Milestone:	---
Platform:	Kubuntu
OS:	Linux
Latest Commit:		Version Fixed/Implemented In:
Sentry Crash Report:

Description betlogbetlog 2023-01-20 05:30:15 UTC

Questions:
- why is there no remote machine monitoring?
- when will it be added?
- where are examples of how to graph/display custom data from bash scripts?
- why are there so few hardware sensors? Fans etc.
- why is there no hard drive % / xBytes *remaining*?
- why does Kubuntu 22.04 not auto-update to the newer versions? (5.24.4 vs 5.26.90). How do i do that manually? Or is this problematic?
- why is there no tool to convert ksysguard to plasma-systemmonitor format.

Observations:
- S.M.A.R.T data seems like a worthy addition
- It's difficult to imagine why kysyguard has been "obsoleted" by plasma-systemmonitor when the latter has no remote machine monitoring, and apparently no scripting capability. Please tell me this is all covered in the newer versions.

Comment 1 Paul Worrall 2023-01-20 10:37:49 UTC

- Install the lm-sensors package to get access to more hardware sensors.
- Even without that, you should see sensors for disk "Free Space" and "Percentage Free"
- Kubuntu 22.10 has Plasma 5.25.5.  The Kubuntu documentation says how to upgrade from 22.04.  Then there's the Kubuntu backports PPA, IDK what version that gives.

As for the other questions, you could submit separate "wishlist" bug reports.

Comment 2 betlogbetlog 2023-01-21 10:56:44 UTC

(In reply to Paul Worrall from comment #1)
> - Install the lm-sensors package to get access to more hardware sensors.
already is

> - Even without that, you should see sensors for disk "Free Space" and
> "Percentage Free"
hmm, my bad
I guess I wanted a single graph that labeled digits for both used and available space. Still do.

> - Kubuntu 22.10 has Plasma 5.25.5.  The Kubuntu documentation says how to
> upgrade from 22.04.  Then there's the Kubuntu backports PPA, IDK what
> version that gives.
Investigating...
Is there a specific reason you think a more recent plasma will be of assistance? (please tell me its remote machine monitoring/scripted data)
 
> As for the other questions, you could submit separate "wishlist" bug reports.
Noted. 

It's just ironic seeing it written that ksysguard is obsoleted by something that hasn't got most of the features the "obsolete" software does.
Typically if users disagree with developers shoving something incomplete at us; then we can just install both. But in this case plasma-systemmonitor dependencies seem to be actively hostile to having ksysguard also installed: forcing users to choose between the incomplete package and hassle every time minor OS updates happen.
It's not a good look for an LTS release.