Bug 462458

Summary: Default window size ever so slightly too small to display tall/desktop view with German language
Product: [Translations] i18n Reporter: Kai Uwe Broulik <kde>
Component: deAssignee: German-Translators <kde-i18n-de>
Status: RESOLVED FIXED    
Severity: normal CC: dev+kde, johannesobermayr, nate
Priority: NOR Keywords: regression
Version: unspecified   
Target Milestone: ---   
Platform: Other   
OS: Linux   
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Attachments: System settings default size

Description Kai Uwe Broulik 2022-11-30 20:17:47 UTC
Created attachment 154176 [details]
System settings default size

SUMMARY
For a few weeks or so, in German locale the System Settings default/minimum size is like 5 pixels too narrow, causing the landing page to switch to Smartphone FormLayout which looks horrendous.

STEPS TO REPRODUCE
1. Start System Settings

OBSERVED RESULT
Looks horrendous

EXPECTED RESULT
Looks fine

SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS
Linux/KDE Plasma: git master as of 2022-11-29

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Wonder if just some margins/spacing have changed, this used to be fine
Comment 1 Nate Graham 2022-12-01 21:05:58 UTC
Argh
Comment 2 Nate Graham 2024-03-05 20:13:22 UTC
The problem here is the humongous button labeled "Weitere Einstellungen zum Erscheinungsbild…" I wonder if there's a way to shorten this at all. Moving to i18n for discussion there.
Comment 3 Johannes Obermayr 2024-03-05 22:24:32 UTC
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #2)
> The problem here is the humongous button labeled "Weitere Einstellungen zum
> Erscheinungsbild…" I wonder if there's a way to shorten this at all. Moving
> to i18n for discussion there.

Maybe we should rename to where they link to (what they open):

button "More Appearance Settings…" -> "[Set] Colors & Themes" -> German: "Farben & Designs [einstellen …]"
button "More Behavior Settings…" -> "[Set] General Behavior" -> German "Allgemeines Verhalten [einstellen …]"

Both would be shorter ...
Comment 4 Nate Graham 2024-03-05 22:50:16 UTC
I'm not a native speaker, but both seem okay to me.
Comment 5 Frank Steinmetzger 2024-03-15 16:49:14 UTC
This would however require support by the layout, because in English the [set] is at the front of the sentence, whereas in German the [einstellen] is at the end. You would need a prefix and a suffix string around the button, and you are still left with a long text.

Can't we lose the “more” from “more settings” and just say “Appearance settings”. Because the button’s destination is the actual settings anyways. It doesn’t mention “Appearance” on the start page either, so the user may not even know that it belongs to the Appearance section.
Comment 6 Nate Graham 2024-03-15 18:41:44 UTC
Hmm, that's something to consider.