Bug 43875

Summary: KNode should have SNews (SSL Support)
Product: [Unmaintained] knode Reporter: J. Peter Mugaas <oma00215>
Component: generalAssignee: kdepim bugs <kdepim-bugs>
Status: RESOLVED FIXED    
Severity: wishlist CC: jfirebaugh, twunder
Priority: NOR    
Version: 0.7.1   
Target Milestone: ---   
Platform: Mandrake RPMs   
OS: Linux   
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Description J. Peter Mugaas 2002-06-13 08:09:55 UTC
(*** This bug was imported into bugs.kde.org ***)

Package:           knode
Version:           0.7.1 (using KDE 3.0.1 )
Severity:          wishlist
Installed from:    Mandrake Linux Cooker i586 - Cooker
Compiler:          gcc version 2.96 20000731 (Mandrake Linux 8.2 2.96-0.76mdk)
OS:                Linux (i686) release 2.4.18-6mdk
OS/Compiler notes: 

KNode should support SNews (NNTP over SSL) using port 563.  The only way I can use KNode now is by using STunnel to access a news server that requires SSL.  I had looked at Mahogany and Mozilla but those are not satisfactory.

Thanks.

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Comment 1 Mathias Waack 2002-06-13 12:26:37 UTC
On Thursday 13 June 2002 10:09 oma00215@mail.wvnet.edu wrote:
> KNode should support SNews (NNTP over SSL) using port 563.  The only way I
> can use KNode now is by using STunnel to access a news server that requir=
es
> SSL.  I had looked at Mahogany and Mozilla but those are not satisfactory.

Just for my curiosity: whats the reason why you can't live with stunnel?

Mathias
Comment 2 Marc Mutz 2002-06-13 15:05:26 UTC
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On Thursday 13 June 2002 14:26 Mathias Waack wrote:
> On Thursday 13 June 2002 10:09 oma00215@mail.wvnet.edu wrote:
> > KNode should support SNews (NNTP over SSL) using port 563.  The
> > only way I can use KNode now is by using STunnel to access a news
> > server that requires SSL.  I had looked at Mahogany and Mozilla but
> > those are not satisfactory.
>
> Just for my curiosity: whats the reason why you can't live with
> stunnel?
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Apart from that fact that stunnel is too low-level for a User KNode 
should really start using the NNTP KioSlave which has SSL support 
already.

Marc

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Marc Mutz <mutz@kde.org>
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Comment 3 J. Peter Mugaas 2002-06-13 23:37:48 UTC
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I have been asked why I can't live with STunnel.  I'm using STunnel
currently with KNode and I can live with that for the moment.   It's
a stopgap measure.  However I don't like this because:

1) I have to open up a port with STunnel to access the server.
2) I can only start STunnel using the root account to access one SSL
NNTP server.    Some users might not have this and this would be
problematic for people having to use more than one NNTP SSL server.
3) I just feel it would be more elegant if KNode itself supported
SSL.  The easiest way to do things is to make a SH script to start
STUNNEL with the appropriate parameters.
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Comment 4 aamoruso 2002-12-20 08:59:24 UTC
Sourceforge ships with a SSL encrypted News server and it would be great if 
KNode could allow to use it, handling SNews. 
Comment 5 Chris Howells 2003-05-02 10:34:36 UTC
*** Bug 21443 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 6 B. K. Oxley (binkley) 2003-09-17 14:29:55 UTC
Why isn't this on the feature list for 3.2 or at least 3.3?  Konqueror and 
KMail handle SSL versions of their protocols.  It seems weird that I have to 
pop open Mozilla to read NNTP posts on SourceForge.  And the stunnel 
suggestion, although a technical fix, is just plain weird.  I don't want to 
explain stunnel to my mom. 
 
Comment 7 kris 2005-04-22 18:45:58 UTC
People, please! This is 2005! Am I really expected to blow my password in clear over the network in order to read news?
Comment 8 Mario Tanev 2005-05-28 22:50:54 UTC
nttps:// has existed for so long, is there a reason knode can't use it?
Comment 9 Stephan Wienczny 2005-07-08 18:58:03 UTC
Any news about this thing?
Could the dev's please explain _why_ ssl is not possible.
Comment 10 Didier Raboud 2005-11-03 19:43:29 UTC
It is an important feature for me (and many people working with secure-crazy administators): my University News (EPFL) are protected by SSL and I do not want to open Thunderbird just for that.
Comment 11 Stephan Wienczny 2005-11-03 19:51:35 UTC
I don't think that your admin is secure-crazy. If you have a campus with wlan and DON'T have WPA, you can't allow non SSL connections. Everbody can sniff your password. Because you just have one password for the campus this is a bad thing. On the other side you can't just use wpa, because many users do not yet have (hardware side) support for this stronger encryption. SSL is the only secure way...
Comment 12 Didier Raboud 2005-11-03 19:59:07 UTC
N.B. WPA or VPN on the campus...
SSL is needed in every case (even if now it works without, it should'nt). I acceed to Newsgroups from home. Therefor is SSL intelligent and needed, no?
Comment 13 David Lee 2007-01-31 10:18:14 UTC
Is anyone maintaining Knode? There was no response to this bug for over a year now, and it's still unresolved (NEW, rather). I would really appreciate it if Knode did support Snews, so that we have a simple graphical interface for connecting to encrypted news servers without having to go through the technical STunnel stuff.
Perhaps the Devs are working on the KDE4 version and have no time to fix this?
Comment 14 Volker Krause 2007-05-21 18:15:08 UTC
Implemented for KDE4.0.
Comment 15 Jørgen Hermanrud Fjeld 2007-05-21 19:58:40 UTC
Fantastic!
Comment 16 Didier Raboud 2007-05-21 20:19:30 UTC
Yep. Fantastic !