Bug 436745

Works for me. Can you please share a screenshot that shows the problem?

Created attachment 138220 [details]
the 'normal' Dolphin without entry 'show Menue Bar' in 'HamburgerMenue'

Created attachment 138221 [details]
the SuperUser Dolphin without this problem - Option 'Show Menue Bar' in Hamburger submenue is available

Interesting, thanks.

Created attachment 138222 [details]
The Super User Dolphin displays the menu bar instead of the hamburger menu (top right of the window) after pressing the shortcut Ctrl+M. But this does not work in the 'normal' Dolphin.

Hello Nate,

I want to thank you!

Do you also have Tumbleweed as operating system?
Because I strongly suspect that it is due to a software update from 
today; this morning I made demonstration videos for LinuxPresentationDay 
2021.1 (link: https://l-p-d.org/_landingpage/), there the keyboard 
shortcut Ctrl+M still worked. But not anymore this afternoon ...

Good luck!

Holger

Am 07.05.21 um 22:07 schrieb Nate Graham:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=436745
> 
> Nate Graham <nate@kde.org> changed:
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> --- Comment #4 from Nate Graham <nate@kde.org> ---
> Interesting, thanks.
>

I do, but I can't reproduce the issue with today's snapshot.

Ok Nate,

So you use the Tumbleweed with KDE desktop as well?

By the way, I still have a virtual machine running openSUSE Leap 15.2.
However, with Gnome desktop. This I had opened under my regular user, 
but the one for video recording.
Now I have postinstalled Dolphin there; however, it comes from a flatpak 
package in version 20.04.2-lp152.1.1.
There the submenu 'Show menu bar' is present and (of course) the 
shortcut Ctrl+M works then, too.
So I suspect that the bug is related to a system update from Tumbleweed, 
they always have the very latest software and unfortunately sometimes 
minor bugs ...

Something strange in addition: I was in full screen mode of the virtual 
machine (Leap / Gnome desktop), pressed the meta key to open so the 
application launcher.
I typed 'Dolphin' and it opened. Here Dolphin worked by default, without 
the bug I mentioned.
Then I realized that there is no Dolphin installed in Gnome (!); I 
checked and sure enough, Dolphin had to be installed first.

So I used the shortcut 'Meta key' to open (unintentionally) not the 
Dolphin in the virtual machine (because it was not installed yet), but 
the Dolphin of the host system (under the user for video editing).
And lo and behold: the bug was not there.

I then left the virtual machine and opened the Dolphin of the video user 
again (later also under my regular user); the bug is still there (under 
both users).
Moreover, the bug is still there in my regular user's virtual machine 
(Tumbleweed /KDE) and, of course, in the regular user's host system.

And then I also started the virtual machine with Leap / Gnome under the 
regular user and tried to recreate the above phenomenon in full screen 
mode.
The Meta button did not open Dolphin this time, only when I left the 
full screen mode of the virtual machine (so just the other way around, 
that is, under the user described for video).
Then, without full screen mode, I could access my host system's Dolphin 
with the Meta key and the bug was there.
However, under the Dolphin from the flatpak I had previously installed 
in the virtual Gnome, the bug is still missing and shows the menu bar.

That sounds really illogical, doesn't it? But that's exactly what 
happened ...   :-/
The bug can't be reproduced on a regular basis; what is certain is that 
it doesn't occur under the (probably not so recent) flatpak package I 
installed under Leap.

Have a nice weekend!


Holger



Am 07.05.21 um 23:04 schrieb Nate Graham:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=436745
> 
> Nate Graham <nate@kde.org> changed:
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>                   CC|                            |fabian@ritter-vogt.de
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> --- Comment #7 from Nate Graham <nate@kde.org> ---
> I do, but I can't reproduce the issue with today's snapshot.
>

(In reply to Holger from comment #8)
> Now I have postinstalled Dolphin there; however, it comes from a flatpak 
> package in version 20.04.2-lp152.1.1.

That's not a flatpak version number, that's an RPM package version.
It's most likely Dolphin from Leap's standard repo.

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Hi Fabian,

sorry, den Bewertungen im (ungewohnten) GNOME-Desktop der Softwareverwaltung, meinte ich entnommen zu haben, dass der Dolphin aus dem Flatpak stammt.

Also scheint es ja ganz klar an einem Bug im Update des Tumbleweed zu liegen, denn der Leap 15.2 hat die Menüleiste (bzw. den Eintrag der Menüleiste) im Hamburger Menü ja noch.

Danke!


Holger


Hi Fabian,

sorry, the reviews in the (unfamiliar) GNOME desktop of the software management, I thought to have taken that the Dolphin comes from the Flatpak.

So it seems to be clearly a bug in the update of the Tumbleweed, because the Leap 15.2 has the menu bar (or the entry of the menu bar) in the Hamburger menu still.

Thanks!


Holger

Am 8. Mai 2021 12:29:05 MESZ schrieb Fabian Vogt <bugzilla_noreply@kde.org>:
>https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=436745
>
>--- Comment #9 from Fabian Vogt <fabian@ritter-vogt.de> ---
>(In reply to Holger from comment #8)
>> Now I have postinstalled Dolphin there; however, it comes from a
>flatpak 
>> package in version 20.04.2-lp152.1.1.
>
>That's not a flatpak version number, that's an RPM package version.
>It's most likely Dolphin from Leap's standard repo.
>
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>You reported the bug.

I can't reproduce the issue here. Does it work if you temporarily move away ~/.config/dolphinrc? If so, can you attach it here? Note that there might be some personal information inside which you can omit.

Created attachment 138490 [details]
dolphinrc_Fehler_Fragezeichen

Hello Fabian,

thanks for this idea! In the attachment I put the dolphinrc file.

I just renamed the file to 'dolphinrc_Fehler_Fragezeichen' (in English: 
dolphinrc_failure_question_mark). However, the original was still in the 
/home/holger/.config/ directory after that.
So I moved it to the trash.

This doesn't help for now, because Dolphin immediately creates a new 
file after closing and reopening it and the submenu 'Show menu bar' is 
still missing.

Then I moved the file to the trash via the super user mode Dolphin. I 
did not open the 'normal' Dolphin after that and first logged out and 
then logged back in.

But this also does not change anything. Dolphin of course creates a new 
'dolphinrc file' again. Also the submenu 'Show menu bar' is still missing.

By the way, I am now quite unsure whether the error has not been present 
for some time (it had in any case already occurred once, but I thought 
that the menu bar would have been available again over a longer period 
of time, or had been made visible by me); so it could be that the error 
occurred not only with the operating system update I mentioned, but earlier.

I also noticed months ago that (presumably) all KDE programs only open 
with the hamburger menu (top right) instead of the standard menu bar.
So it could also be possible that I have (unconsciously) misconfigured 
something somewhere in the settings ...

Sorry


Holger

Am 16.05.21 um 19:13 schrieb Fabian Vogt:
> --- Comment #11 from Fabian Vogt<fabian@ritter-vogt.de>  ---
> I can't reproduce the issue here. Does it work if you temporarily move away
> ~/.config/dolphinrc? If so, can you attach it here? Note that there might be
> some personal information inside which you can omit.

This sounds like you enabled the global menu. Then applications no longer handle the menu bar themselves. 

Make sure you don't have the "Application menu" button as part of the window decoration and there's no "application menu" plasmoid on the desktop.

Hello everybody,

my problem is solved (Fabian kindly helped me in German, as I have set 
my system to German menu and could not implement his suggestions without 
doubt).

There were two errors in my settings (both clearly due to system 
settings I unconsciously misconfigured):

1.
In the system settings under 'Appearance' - 'Window decoration' and 
there under the tab 'Title bar buttons' the button 'Application menu' 
had been dragged from the top of the bar to below, so it had to be removed.
After that, however, I still had no menu bar in Dolphin, because I had 
configured something else wrong (see 2.) ...

2.
Since I had recently made a presentation video at Linux Presentation Day 
(LPD 2021.1) in a virtual machine regarding the setup of the KDE Plasma 
Desktop, I remembered that when you create an additional control bar 
(sub-menu 'Application Menu Bar', and only with this one, a 'Global 
Menu' is integrated.
But you only see this when you are in edit mode for this new application 
menu bar ...
After I removed the global menu (in the edit mode of the control bar), 
the menu bar was included in all KDE programs again; it was not only 
missing in Dolphin, but also in the (less frequently used and therefore 
not mentioned at the beginning) programs, like Kdenlive, KDE 
partitioner, and could not be displayed by the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+M.

So now everything is back as it should be and I am more than happy!

Many thanks to the whole KDE development team; you are doing a really 
great job!
You guys are great!!!

Am 16.05.21 um 21:18 schrieb Fabian Vogt:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=436745
> 
> --- Comment #13 from Fabian Vogt <fabian@ritter-vogt.de> ---
> This sounds like you enabled the global menu. Then applications no longer
> handle the menu bar themselves.
> 
> Make sure you don't have the "Application menu" button as part of the window
> decoration and there's no "application menu" plasmoid on the desktop.
>

Glad it's sorted out!