| Summary: | group mails by subject or sender / multi level sorting | ||
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| Product: | [Unmaintained] kmail | Reporter: | Ronald Aigner <ra3> |
| Component: | message list | Assignee: | kdepim bugs <kdepim-bugs> |
| Status: | RESOLVED FIXED | ||
| Severity: | wishlist | CC: | bluedzins, brian.beck, hashinclude, jan.halasa, mauceri, r.bauer, shafff |
| Priority: | NOR | ||
| Version: | 1.4 | ||
| Target Milestone: | --- | ||
| Platform: | Compiled Sources | ||
| OS: | Linux | ||
| Latest Commit: | Version Fixed In: | ||
| Sentry Crash Report: | |||
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Description
Ronald Aigner
2002-04-29 12:48:04 UTC
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 29 April 2002 14:48 ra3@os.inf.tu-dresden.de wrote: <snip> > It would by helpful to be able to group mail in a folder by subject or > sender. <snip> Tried clicking on the column headers? ;-) Marc - --=20 Marc Mutz <mutz@kde.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8zVfw3oWD+L2/6DgRAiswAJ9rEPmiA3O6/axDAHKyibKuruqDsgCdEKix u9z1D50+OMq6Lcgh/HYs11s=3D =3DZp2W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- What I meant was to group the mails (something like using threads). If I klick on the column header the sorting is changed. That's not what I want. I still want to sort the message by the day of arrival. -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / with regards Ronald Aigner http://os.inf.tu-dresden.de/~ra3/ Operating Systems Group - TU Dresden On Monday 29 April 2002 17:01 Ronald Aigner wrote: > What I meant was to group the mails (something like using threads). If I > klick on the column header the sorting is changed. That's not what I want. > I still want to sort the message by the day of arrival. Perhaps you might call the desired feature: "multi level sorting" Sounds like a good idea to me. Possible way how to design the respective UI: 1. By clicking on a column header sorting is completely changed - just the same way as it is done now. So by normal (left) clicking you would set the 1st level sorting column. 2. By right clicking on this column header you would be presented a menu offering the names of the other columns: by selecting one of them you could define this column as 2nd level sorting order (to be applied to all entries having the same 1st column value). Thus you could declare any column as 2nd level sorting column by just right clicking on the active 1st column's header... Of course this would require to have all different 'modes' of each column in the respective RBM e.g. there should be separate entries for "Date (up)" "Date (down)" "Date of arrival (up)" "Date of arrival (down)" rather than just havind one single "date" entry for that column. Is this what you would like to see? Cheers Karl-Heinz PS: Do you happen to speak C++? ;-) --=20 Karl-Heinz Zimmer Senior Software Engineer Klar=E4lvdalens Datakonsult AB <mailto:khz@klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se> <mailto:khz@kde.org> On Monday 29 April 2002 17:21 Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote: > Perhaps you might call the desired feature: > "multi level sorting" Thats a pretty good description - I'm still used to the Microsoft terminology... > 1. By clicking on a column header sorting is completely changed - just the > same way as it is done now. > So by normal (left) clicking you would set the 1st level sorting column. > > 2. By right clicking on this column header you would be presented a menu > offering the names of the other columns: by selecting one of them > you could define this column as 2nd level sorting order (to be > applied to all entries having the same 1st column value). Maybe (since I am so full of MS) I'll describe the way Outlook does this: When you activate "grouping" above the message list an smaller window is inserted which will show the grouping/sorting hierarchy. If you drag a column header into this window you can position it at the desired grouping/sorting level... But that might require larger scale changes... > Is this what you would like to see? Yeah! :)))) > PS: Do you happen to speak C++? ;-) Aehm yes. -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / with regards Ronald Aigner http://os.inf.tu-dresden.de/~ra3/ Operating Systems Group - TU Dresden On Monday 29 April 2002 17:37 Ronald Aigner wrote: > On Monday 29 April 2002 17:21 Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote: > > Perhaps you might call the desired feature: > > "multi level sorting" .. > > Is this what you would like to see? > > Yeah! :)))) > > > PS: Do you happen to speak C++? ;-) > > Aehm yes. Welcome at the Party! This is Free Software: your patches implementing the desired feature will be very wellcome and (of course) you can be sure to receive all possible help to encourage/support you in adding such reasonable things to KMail. See you on kde-devel@kde.org ? Cheers Karl-Heinz --=20 Karl-Heinz Zimmer Senior Software Engineer Klar=E4lvdalens Datakonsult AB <mailto:khz@klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se> <mailto:khz@kde.org> I would really like to see this feature as it incredibly cleans up large mailboxes. Subject: Re: group mails by subject or sender Grouping/Threading by subject will be possible in KDE 3.2. And for grouping by sender simply sort by sender. Yes, I know that this won't sort the messages from one sender by date. If you really need this then you should consider creating separate folders for different senders. ooooh ... digging up old wishes! I was reading the discussion over at bug 67642 - and I have the exact same problem described there. We have an internal Bugzilla, which forwards mails to our broken mailserver (Exchange, 'nuff said) which sends the same bug mails multiple times to the same address (once to hrishikesh.mehendale@... and once to group@...) The current incarnation of KMail (1.9.1 from KUbuntu 6.06_LTS; KDE 3.5.2) partially works as expected - one of those two mails is shown "threaded" with the rest of the tree, but the other one is not (different recipient? possibly - because it is the exact same mail). Having this (configurable?) feature of "group by subject" is the ideal way to solve this issue, so I can sort by subject (so the latest bug numbers are always in the top), but the list is collapsed (much like threading). At the same time, this does not kill the "conservative threading algorithm" [sic], but lets people group mails in specific mail folders by subject (e.g. bug mails ARE grouped by subject, but not mails to kde-i18n-doc@...) (one vote from me - for whenever this is implemented!) *** Bug 142316 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** *** Bug 122142 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** *** Bug 151181 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** I add my 2 cents here then :-) * please provide group schemes which could be saved for later use. Or in other words -- please provide "views" for "group by". So I could have one folder but with dozens of views. In response to comment 12 - like gmail then? That is a very useful way to store & locate mail, once you get used to it ... I don't know, I don't use gmail. I would say rather like a "macro", so you don't have to set "group by" each time. *** Bug 61106 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** See also bug 107450. does kmail from KDE 4.2 resolve bug? > does kmail from KDE 4.2 resolve bug?
You can group by sender now (and by date), and still sort by date.
You can't group by subject, which is requested in the original report.
grouping by subject == displaying threads as trees? > grouping by subject == displaying threads as trees?
I'm actually not too sure what this bug report is about :)
group by subject != threaded view as trees, but that is a close approximation :) Ronald Aigner 2002-04-29 15:01:49:
> What I meant was to group the mails (something like using threads).
so closing the bug.
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