Bug 380378

Or perhaps it is better to keep it manual..

Anyway, I'm a bit confused about some grouping matters: When I convert RAW into JPEG in the image editor, the original RAW image gets hidden. Then, if I delete the converted JPEG, the RAW image shows up again so it wasn't deleted. Whereas if I convert RAW to JPEG with batch manager, the RAW image doesn't get hidden, so I use grouping and then when I delete the JPEG (i.e., the group), both images get deleted. I prefer the latter, that is, deleting both images.

Just an idea, not sure if it makes sense: Could grouping and versioning be unified somehow? For instance, instead of hiding the original image, create a group? That is, use the grouping framework for the image stacks in versioning too? Or when deleting an image, also delete all the images that it hides because of versioning? Probably, these wouldn't work like this and I'm most likely missing something, but I just find the current situation a bit confusing or maybe I need to understand something. Any thoughts? If this comment is worth a "bug" report of its own, I can copy it to a new report.

Simon work currently to improve Group feature. All last changes can be found in last pre-release 5.6.0 Linux AppImage bundle. Please take a look an revise this entry accordingly. Perhaps some new options coded by Simon are enough to close this entry. If something is missing, just comment here.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BzeiVr-byqt5Y0tIRWVWelRJenM

Gilles Caulier

My recent changes to grouping don't really address this problem.

Automatic grouping: Could be a thing. A config option to group automatically by time or filename. To still also allow manual groups as well, we would either need subgrouping (that would probably open Pandora's Box) or just combine automatically and manually grouped items. I would like that, but don't see it happening (by me) anytime soon.

I pondered the idea of integrating versioning and grouping as well - but gave up on it due to lack of understanding and interest. I personally use digiKam almost exclusively as DAM, so the only image manipulation I do is e.g. scaling&sharpening in BQM for publication. Point I am trying to make: I don't really know the versioning feature.

What is displayed regarding versioning is set in configuration -> Image Editor -> Versioning -> In main view -> Always show... So I assume you could select both checkboxes, then manually use grouping on versions. That could maybe be unified with grouping by giving another option: Group versions together. As you noted, I am too probably not aware of problems regarding this approach. And there is this report about this functionality:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338882

And I think versioning is only available through the editor, not through the batch queue manager. I might be wrong however. This bug report is probably related:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375024

So lets keep this report about automatical grouping and potentially use the linked reports or new ones for the versioning problems. I feel like versioning on its own needs some real attention to get it right (again?).

Maik,

BQM use already versioning feature, but not very well. Right ?

Gilles

digiKam 7.0.0 stable release is now published:

https://www.digikam.org/news/2020-07-19-7.0.0_release_announcement/

We need a fresh feedback on this file using this version.

Best Regards

Gilles Caulier

Hi Jaakko,

Items group and items versioning are 2 separated features, currently. As Simon explain in comment #3, there are other files/ideas in bugzilla to improves and merge these features.

About the original topic of grouping items automatically, this feature is now implemented and documented here :

https://docs.digikam.org/en/main_window/image_view.html#grouping-photographs

If it miss something, please fill a new wish in bugzilla.

Best

Gilles Caulier