Bug 365213

Summary:	Installed/reinstalled cron but not found in system settings
Product:	[KDE Neon] neon	Reporter:	pmb <s093x6f6>
Component:	Packages Testing Edition	Assignee:	Neon Bugs <neon-bugs-null>
Status:	RESOLVED NOT A BUG
Severity:	normal	CC:	jr, lueck, neon-bugs-null, sitter
Priority:	NOR
Version First Reported In:	unspecified
Target Milestone:	---
Platform:	Neon
OS:	Linux
Latest Commit:		Version Fixed/Implemented In:
Sentry Crash Report:
Attachments:	picture of the thing working

Description pmb 2016-07-07 21:28:53 UTC

Just downloaded Neon 5.7 today and installed. Installed all updates.

Downloaded from the repositories cron. Went to system settings looked inside 'StartUp / ShutDown' - no cron.

Searched - app highlighted 'StartUp / ShutDown' but no cron.

I reinstalled cron and again no cron.

The reinstall has some errors that I cannot understand but here is the text,

"The following packages will be REINSTALLED:
  cron 
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/68.4 kB of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
(Reading database ... 186076 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../cron_3.0pl1-128ubuntu2_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking cron (3.0pl1-128ubuntu2) over (3.0pl1-128ubuntu2) ...
Processing triggers for systemd (229-4ubuntu6) ...
Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-19) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
Setting up cron (3.0pl1-128ubuntu2) ...
update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling back to defaults
update-rc.d: warning: stop runlevel arguments (1) do not match cron Default-Stop values (none)"

Hope this helps.



Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Install cron from repositories
2. open system settings
3.

Actual Results:  
No cron in StartUp / Shutdown


Expected Results:  
A panel entry should display cron for setup

Comment 1 Burkhard Lück 2016-07-08 04:54:44 UTC

Does kcmshell5 kcm_cron in Konsole work for you?

See also https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/128033/

Comment 2 Harald Sitter 2016-07-08 09:27:34 UTC

Created attachment 99944 [details]
picture of the thing working

The software is called 'kcron'. 'cron' is the actual cron underlying kcron.

Comment 3 pmb 2016-07-08 13:43:54 UTC

 Burkhard Lueck - Thank You for the reply

The reply is
"???@???:~$ kcmshell5 kcm_cron
kcron: Error when executing command "crontab -l > /tmp/kcmshell5.TJ2313" 

kcron: Standard output : "" 

kcron: Standard error : "no crontab for ???\n" 

kcron: Setup actions 

kcron: Actions initialized 

kcron: Begin view refresh 

kcron: Creating Tasks list... 

kcron: Generic list created 

kcron: Tasks list created 

kcron: Generic list created 

kcron: Variables list created 

kcron: Enabling view... 

kcron: Clipboard Status  false 

kcron: Change selection... 

kcron: Crontab Widget initialized 

kcron: Calling load"

Harald Sitter  - Thank You for the reply

Yes, my fault, I missed the 'k'. The kcron package was is an old version of KDE. Cron is the underlying app while kcron is the frontend (I think, maybe). Both were installed(?).

Hope this helps

Comment 4 Harald Sitter 2016-07-08 13:51:37 UTC

So this seems to be working fine, you were just looking for the wrong entry in systemsettings?

Comment 5 pmb 2016-07-08 15:17:14 UTC

Harold Sitter - Thank You for the reply

I was looking in the right place in systemsettings.

What I did not do was load kcron with cron. I suppose that the other way around would have worked. Load kcron and cron is loaded also.

Live and learn.