Bug 351646

Summary:	let the user identify the KCM with baloo with adding the string "Baloo" somewhere.
Product:	[Applications] systemsettings	Reporter:	Unknown <null>
Component:	kcm_baloo	Assignee:	Pinak Ahuja <pinak.ahuja>
Status:	RESOLVED INTENTIONAL
Severity:	wishlist	CC:	aspotashev, bugseforuns, nate, pinak.ahuja, plasma-bugs-null
Priority:	NOR
Version First Reported In:	unspecified
Target Milestone:	---
Platform:	Ubuntu
OS:	Linux
Latest Commit:		Version Fixed/Implemented In:
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Description Unknown 2015-08-23 14:16:59 UTC

The KCM in the german KDE is named "Desktop-Suche". In english it might be "desktop search".
The name and the content of the KCM-dialog itself make it unpossible for the user to see that it is "connected" to baloo.
"desktop search" could mean everything.

Please give the user here enough informations which components of the system are affected by this KCM.

Using Kubunut 14.04.3 LTS.
baloo -v tell me
Qt: 4.8.6
KDE Development Platform: 4.13.3
: 0.1

Reproducible: Always

Comment 1 Vishesh Handa 2015-09-15 21:07:06 UTC

I just tested this with Plasma 5 and it searching for Baloo points towards the KCM.

Comment 2 Unknown 2015-09-16 20:25:48 UTC

I think you missunderstood me.
Or maybe I missunderstood you?

Did you mean you but the string "Baloo" into the search field of the KDE-Plasma-5 starter and you get the baloo KCM as a result?

This wasn't the problem I wrote about.

To be more technical: The name of the KCM and all strings on the KCM-dialog (incl. the window title) say nothing about that this is related to baloo! That is the problem.

I think this is a conceputal problem.
When I search for "baloo" in my german KDE4 I get "Desktop-Suche" as result which means directly translated "desktop search". There is no hint about baloo.
"desktop search" is not "baloo"! Yes, "baloo" is a "desktop-search" but not the other way around. There are a lot of other software that can act as a "desktop-search".
It would be the same if Mercedes would name its next released model just "Car". You see what I mean?

And I don't think that "normal" users (grandma, etc.) would go this way with search for "baloo" in the search field. They just go to the KDE-settings window and looking for something that is responsible for searching files on the desktop. Yes! They click on "desktop search" but never get a hint about that the underlying software is named "baloo". That is the point here!

They are not able to get deeper in the materia if the want to or if they have problems to solve.

Comment 3 fire f. 2018-11-19 09:29:02 UTC

moonkid is correct.

The same problem occurs with KRunner, which does it identify itself in the GUI and related KCMs do not mention "KRunner".

This is so annoying!

try search all related balloo or krunner stuff in systemsettings.

there is no intuitive or logical way to do it !

Comment 4 Nate Graham 2019-09-16 20:13:24 UTC

I think it would make sense to add this in the tooltip/caption.

So the title would be "File search" and the caption would be "Configure Baloo file search"

Comment 5 Nate Graham 2019-12-07 00:12:36 UTC

We decided not to do this. See the discussion in https://phabricator.kde.org/D25278.

Comment 6 fire f. 2020-01-11 08:08:41 UTC

that would be less of a concern if baloo did simply do its job rather than have the reputation of eating 90% of disk space and CPU cycles in many cases.

Comment 7 fire f. 2020-01-11 08:13:14 UTC

at least    K help centre   refers to  https://community.kde.org/Baloo/Configuration

at one stage.

Comment 8 Nate Graham 2020-01-12 05:46:27 UTC

Thankfully that's a reputation that's becoming less and less true all the time, based on social media comments and bug reports. :) If you still have problem of that nature, please do file bugs!