| Summary: | Folder icons changing size on reboot, can't manually sort their position. | ||
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| Product: | [Plasma] plasmashell | Reporter: | Al <ahw609> |
| Component: | Desktop icons & Folder View widget | Assignee: | Eike Hein <hein> |
| Status: | RESOLVED FIXED | ||
| Severity: | normal | CC: | jcdole, kde, nate, notuxius, pier_andreit, plasma-bugs, post, rb03884, theovobia, vkrevs |
| Priority: | NOR | ||
| Version: | 5.3.1 | ||
| Target Milestone: | 1.0 | ||
| Platform: | Fedora RPMs | ||
| OS: | Linux | ||
| Latest Commit: | Version Fixed In: | ||
| Sentry Crash Report: | |||
| Attachments: | lockedicons.png | ||
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Description
Al
2015-06-29 17:34:49 UTC
Have now tried kubuntu as well. Problem with resizing does not seem to be present (yet), but also can not physically place the icons as before (in KDE 4). Also can add that kubuntu is 5.2.2, while the fedora systems are at 5.3.1. I can not swear to it, but I think the fedora systems used to not resize until 5.3 hit. Also have had a strange new bug after recent updates on some systems. Both the kubuntu and one of the fedora machines (the one from a "fedup" upgrade) now no longer detect when the cursor is inside the folder, and do not extend the settings, sizing, and other controls along the side. They do nothing. The clean fedore VM still is working in regards to that. Also noticed that in KDE 4 there were settings for "align to grid" (as well as a couple other things) that are now missing. Related somehow to the inability to manually place the icons in a desire order / location within the folder view? I'm afraid I basically can't reproduce any of your issues on my systems (Fedora, Kubuntu-based Netrunner): - Icon sizes are preserved across restarts - You can move them around just fine in the desktop folder view (yes, alignment to grid is non-optional now), but note that Folder View widgets don't support custom positioning (just like Plasma 4 IIRC) - The resize handle appears just fine on hover - maybe you've enabled press-and-hold mode in the desktop settings? Interesting how I have been using KDE for many years and never noticed this before - it is the "Lock Widgets / Unlock Widgets" that controls the resize, settings, etc. pop-out. It is the same on my F21 KDE 4.14.9 systems as well. Just never noticed before, so this is not an issue any more. However the kubuntu system is not having any problems with the icons resizing every time I boot or update (not that there are many updates), but the fedora systems continue to show this behavior. As I pointed out, there is a big difference in the version of plasma they are running. Also, if I understand you correctly, we can no longer customize where the icons are located in a folder view? This was supported in 4.14.9, and at the moment none of the new plasma 5 systems can do it. Another loss of customization ability (e.g. like the different wallpapers on different desktops)? (Note that I am not a huge fan of having all my icons in a folder view in the first place, but this appeared to be something that was pushed on us somewhere back a few years.) Also it seemed to me (from things I ran across in KDE People, etc.) that kubuntu was the premier and "most current" distribution of plasma. My experience shows that fedora is well ahead in this area. Is there a better distribution that I could use to see the latest "stable" version, or is f22 the best example? > we can no longer customize where the icons are located in a folder view
What do you mean? You can choose whose folder contents it shows, which types of files, whether to arrange them in column or rows, arrange them left-to-right or right-to-left.
> Also, if I understand you correctly, we can no longer customize where the icons are located in a folder view?
Folder View can do three things:
- Serve as the desktop surface itself (Desktop Settings -> switch Layout to Folder View)
- Act as a widget on top of the desktop surface
- Act as a panel widget
(1) gets you a regular old icon desktop which lets you freely position icons. This sounds like what you want.
(2) Doesn't allow free icon positioning (pretty sure Plasma 4 didn't either) since it's silly and also because it allows certain speed optimizations not possible with free icon positioning (widgets often show folders with more files than the desktop would).
(3) Shows a special listview-style popup when activated.
As for distros, KDE.org is neutral towards them - you can use what you prefer.
Created attachment 95075 [details]
lockedicons.png
Why do we want an 'old(?) icon desktop'? We only want to arrange the icons in an personally useful way inside of the widget.
The folder view won't show more icons than the widget size allows, if you you avoid to put more files in it or if you delete others before you put new into. Otherwise I can resize the widget, if i absolutely want to add icons. eventually the icons need to be arranged again after resizing. Look at t
We only want to arrange the icons in an personally useful way inside of the widget. I agree I'm using openSUSE Tumbleweed. When KDE4 was still available the folder widget definitely allowed the user to move and place icons manually in any order. This included snap to grid. As of now, we have to delete all of the icons from the widget and use the "first come first serve method" to place our preferred icons. It worked perfectly in KDE4 until Plasma 5 ripped out all of the features. Please bring them back. Will this be another *wontfix* issue? may be folder view will be more useful if doing the three things it does, it also could: - Serve as the desktop surface itself (Desktop Settings -> switch Layout to Folder View) ---show the files in a list (as detailed view as in a file manager) so the long named files can be read easily - Act as a widget on top of the desktop surface ---show the files in a list (as detailed view as in a file manager) so the long named files can be read easily ---have the possibility to place icons where the user want. ---have an horizontal scrollbar in the case icons are placed by the user where are not visible many thanks, ciao, pier :-) Do I get this right, not being able to place icons on the desktop freely is regarded a feature not a bug? But why their position is recorded in ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc? And why this file gets overwritten each time when rebooting? And last but not least, is there any hope this will be regarded a bug in the future and get fixed? Would love to have a working desktop again. I'm using Chakra Linux with Plama 5.9.5. And desktop is set to folder-view. That file typically doesn't get overwritten on each reboot (or you would lose all of your Plasma settings, which makes no sense). (In reply to Eike Hein from comment #11) > That file typically doesn't get overwritten on each reboot (or you would > lose all of your Plasma settings, which makes no sense). I also thought it should not. But it was. When I placed all the icons nicely on the desktop this changed a certain section in above mentioned file. Then I made it read-only. After rebooting the icons where at the old position again and the file had a time stamp saying it had been changed at startup time. What I wonder about, where does the system get the old positions from? I'm afraid I don't know, it certainly seems weird and unique to your system. (In reply to Eike Hein from comment #13) > I'm afraid I don't know, it certainly seems weird and unique to your system. Can the problem be caused by leftovers from KDE4 configuration. I just updated my system from KDE4 to Plasma5 at one point. No, I don't think so. Plasma 4 and 5 don't use the same config files and don't really migrate desktop settings. Folder View in 4 and 5 are also completely different codebases. Can't reproduce in: Netrunner Rolling Plasma: 5.11.4 Apps: 17.08.3 Frameworks: 5.40.0 Qt: 5.9.3 Kernel: 4.14.3-1-MANJARO and in: KDE neon Developer Edition - Unstable Branches Plasma: 5.11.90 Frameworks: 5.42.0 Qt: 5.9.3 Kernel 4.10.0-42-generic Me neither. Let's call it fixed. If it happens again in Plasma 5.17 or 5.18, please re-open. |