Bug 319289

Summary:	filter rules for incoming messages on pop3 account do not seem to work
Product:	[Frameworks and Libraries] Akonadi	Reporter:	Martin Steigerwald <Martin>
Component:	Mail Filter Agent	Assignee:	kdepim bugs <kdepim-bugs>
Status:	RESOLVED WORKSFORME
Severity:	normal	CC:	amantia, bugzylittle, cfeck
Priority:	NOR
Version:	4.10
Target Milestone:	---
Platform:	Debian unstable
OS:	Linux
Latest Commit:		Version Fixed In:
Sentry Crash Report:
Attachments:	filter rules in use

Description Martin Steigerwald 2013-05-03 18:32:36 UTC

On investigating bug #319238 (mail cannot be moved) I thought a filter rule for incoming mails might be called twice if its active for all accounts. Currently that is local folders maildir and my main POP3 account.

I thought it would make sense to call the filter just once, after download the mail via POP3 resource. Thus I just activated the POP3 account. But then the filters do not seem to work at all, unless I trigger manually with Ctrl+J I get all incoming mails in inbox. Unfiltered.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Make a filter rule for a mailinglist (List-Id) and bind it to your POP3 account.
2. Retrieve new mails via POP3.
Actual Results:
Mails are not filtered unless filtered manually.

Expected Results:
Mails the pop3 resource downloads are filtered.

Since selecting the mails to filter them manually, seems to work around the annoying bug #319238, I now let all new mails go to some folder "aaUnfiltered", then as I disabled spam filter rules (see data loss bug #319226) delete the few spams policyd-weight lets through manual, and press Ctrl-A and then Ctrl-J to filter the rest. Whats for inbox I move there manually.

This way, I seem to have reached some stable state to be able to use KDEPIM-2 without downgrading again to KDEPIM-1.

This is Debian Sid, with KDEPIM 4.10.2, Akonadi 1.9.1 and MySQL 5.5.

Another thought: Since even before new mails appeared in inbox before filtering, may it make sense to just bind the folders to the maildir resource and not the pop3 account? Honestly, I do not understand how filtering is supposed to work. In old KMail I didn´t have a maildir resource as a filtering account and I do not know what it would see as incoming mails.

Comment 1 Martin Steigerwald 2013-05-03 18:34:54 UTC

Created attachment 79678 [details]
filter rules in use

I removed three Sender: field related filter rules for an internal mailing list and another filter rule I consider somewhat private.

Its just simple filter rules aka, if field List-Id (mainly) contains something move mail to folder.

Comment 2 Micool121 2013-05-09 10:14:21 UTC

I have the same here, with Kmail 4.10.2 on kubuntu 13.4

In fact since 12.4, Never succeded in making spam filters work on pop3 accounts (I use 3 accounts) and always hat to move to Thunderbird which is working right from the start.

appling manual filters on incoming dir works, but not direclty when downloaded.

Comment 3 bugzy 2013-08-24 04:44:36 UTC

I am experiencing the same problem Kontact 4.10.5 on Fedora 19. I always have to apply all my filters manually in order to get them to work. I also think that this bug may be related to Bug 322871 (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322871) which plagues KDE 4.11

Comment 4 András Manţia 2013-11-16 13:15:38 UTC

I still cannot reproduce the bug. I tried a filter that looks like this:
[Filter #0]
Applicability=2
AutomaticName=false
ConfigureShortcut=false
ConfigureToolbar=false
Enabled=true
StopProcessingHere=true
ToolbarName=Testing
accounts-set=akonadi_pop3_resource_2
action-args-0=476
action-name-0=transfer
actions=1
apply-on=check-mail,manual-filtering
contentsA=release-team.kde.org
fieldA=List-Id
funcA=contains
identifier=MENPbMfhxCLwgvBz
name=Testing
operator=and
rules=1

Very similar to yours, based on List-Id and works on a specific POP3 account. The mail is correctly filtered.

Comment 5 Martin Steigerwald 2013-11-18 15:51:17 UTC

András, thanks for looking into this. I do manually filtering at the moment to weed out spams before mails are sorted into folders (due to bug # 319226).  However I just set a filter for debian-user-german mailinglist which AFAIR doesn´t receive much spam AFAIK to automatically filter on the POP3 account that receives it. I will report back whether this works.

Comment 6 Martin Steigerwald 2013-11-18 15:52:51 UTC

Hmmm, okay, this appears to work. Maybe bug has been fixed meanwhile? I suggest closing it. Can still be reopened if it happens again. Here I have KDE SC 4.11.3 with Akonaid 1.10.2 meanwhile.

Comment 7 Ben Cooksley 2013-11-29 05:43:18 UTC

Removing micool_angers@hotmail.com from CC list per abuse report.

Comment 8 Martin Steigerwald 2014-03-07 13:27:12 UTC

That filter for debian-user-german mailing list appears to work consistently. Thus closing. Will reopen if I see this issue again.