Bug 318299

Summary: WISH: Rearrange systemsettings
Product: [Plasma] lightdm Reporter: ray-ven <gortab>
Component: configAssignee: David Edmundson <kde>
Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE    
Severity: wishlist CC: cfeck
Priority: NOR    
Version: unspecified   
Target Milestone: ---   
Platform: Ubuntu   
OS: Linux   
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Description ray-ven 2013-04-13 18:57:11 UTC
I use KDE for almost 10 years, and I really love it more and more, but I also support approximately 1500 people using it too which have a few problems with it.
I won't talk about intuitiveness, bc I think this is the same talk like "which colour do you like most", but it seems to a lot of people, find the arrangement of the systemsettings not logic, including me.
People for example don't understand why you seperate different appearence and behaviour settings. And imho I think It would be better understandable if we'd have one Appearence & Behaviour button, and clearly seperated things under it.
Another example: I can't get why the LightDM configuration isn't under Start & End.
There are a lot more suggestions, which you might not think are usefull, but,
wouldn't it be a kde-fitting and better to let people give the opportunity to rearrange things themselves? (there could still be a "go back to default" option
And, and this would be even more important, give someting like an "expert mode" with more options? People buy applestuff, use Gnome or Unity because they don't have that many many options, they just don't want them. Why don't you give people for example a settings menu in which they can use checkboxes for activating things in systemsettings. You could still offer everything in an expert mode.

Thank you

Reproducible: Always
Comment 1 Christoph Feck 2013-04-13 19:10:14 UTC
> People for example don't understand why you seperate different appearence and behaviour settings.

For a few technical explanations, see bug 279433.

> I can't get why the LightDM configuration isn't under Start & End

That's a decision by lightdm developers. Since this bug report is not really specific regarding the other modules, I do not mark it as a duplicate of bug 279433, but move this to lightdm, so you do not have to open a new report.
Comment 2 David Edmundson 2013-04-13 19:35:51 UTC
> Another example: I can't get why the LightDM configuration isn't under Start & End.

Start and end only affects your local user, LightDM settings affect the entire system therefore they should be separate.

As for your original bug report, it's too vague to be useful. . Bug reports need to be small, precise and specific or nothing will happen. The above would be useful as 10 different bug reports, but not like this.

Rearranging is something we will do, see this brainstorm topic for proposed suggestions which I will personally try and make happen for KDE 5, it can't be done before then: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=109262
Comment 3 ray-ven 2013-04-13 20:34:22 UTC
I know it's not exactly a duplicate, but can somehow be considered as one

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 279433 ***