Bug 311626

Summary:	"Require password after" is misleading
Product:	[Applications] systemsettings	Reporter:	Anne-Marie Mahfouf <annma>
Component:	kcm_screensaver	Assignee:	kscreensaver bugs tracking <kscreensaver-bugs-null>
Status:	RESOLVED DUPLICATE
Severity:	normal	CC:	agateau, alien, colin.thomson, fwyzard, mmtsales, oliver.henshaw, ossi
Priority:	NOR
Version First Reported In:	unspecified
Target Milestone:	---
Platform:	Compiled Sources
OS:	Linux
Latest Commit:		Version Fixed/Implemented In:
Sentry Crash Report:
Attachments:	Proposed UI fix As it is now

Description Anne-Marie Mahfouf 2012-12-13 10:16:43 UTC

People think that when you do not check  "Require password after" then it means a password is not required and that they can unlock the screen only with the mouse

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. In kcm_screensaver, check "Start automatically after" <time>
2. Leave "Require password after" unchecked

Actual Results:  
The screen is locked and requires a password

Expected Results:  
The screen is locked but does not require a password, the mouse only will unlock it

The GUI is misleading. There should not be a checkbox  for "Require a password" and the field should not be grey.

Comment 1 Anne-Marie Mahfouf 2012-12-13 10:27:26 UTC

How it is intended to work: "Start automatically after <time>" will start the screen locker after <time>.
If "Require password after" is unchecked, the password will be required immediately.
If "Require password after" is checked, the password will be required after <time> seconds.

Proposed GUI fix attached. If "Require password after" is unchecked, the spinbox value which is grey should be set to 0 and not the previous value.

Comment 2 Anne-Marie Mahfouf 2012-12-13 10:28:34 UTC

Created attachment 75810 [details]
Proposed UI fix

Comment 3 Anne-Marie Mahfouf 2012-12-13 10:40:31 UTC

Created attachment 75811 [details]
As it is now

Comment 4 Oswald Buddenhagen 2012-12-13 10:42:18 UTC

no, this *not* what it is supposed to mean. this is simply broken functionality, because the kwin maintainers are on a crusade against classical screen savers.

Comment 5 Anne-Marie Mahfouf 2012-12-13 10:45:07 UTC

Oswald can you elaborate on how it is supposed to work then?

Comment 6 Oswald Buddenhagen 2012-12-13 11:16:56 UTC

just like it has been for the last one and a half decades: when the checkbox is not checked, no password is required. it's supposed to be a screensaver, not a screenlocker in this mode.

Comment 7 Aurelien Gateau 2012-12-13 15:17:06 UTC

There has been a proposal to improve the KCM two months ago, but unfortunately nothing came out of it: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/106768/ .

Regarding this delay before password is necessary, Aaron was suggesting to simply pick a reasonable value and remove the option all together. I think it is a good idea: I don't see the benefit in being able to fine tune the delay down to the second.

Comment 8 Andrea Bocci 2013-01-10 10:06:16 UTC

Please do not remove the "Require password after XXX seconds" option.
A value that may be reasonable for somebody (e.h. 60 seconds) may be too long for somebody else (I use 10 seconds at most) - and viceversa.

Options are good :-)

Comment 9 Marcelo Sales 2013-02-07 18:41:08 UTC

This is probably related to bug #310871

Comment 10 Oliver Henshaw 2013-04-18 15:42:03 UTC


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 310871 ***