Bug 310811

Summary:	"Outgoing account" is no advanced feature of an identity
Product:	[Applications] kmail2	Reporter:	Bernd Oliver Sünderhauf <pancho.s>
Component:	config dialog	Assignee:	kdepim bugs <kdepim-bugs>
Status:	RESOLVED WORKSFORME
Severity:	normal	CC:	montel
Priority:	NOR	Keywords:	triaged
Version:	4.9.3
Target Milestone:	---
Platform:	Chakra
OS:	Linux
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Description Bernd Oliver Sünderhauf 2012-11-28 11:44:04 UTC

The outgoing account isn't an advanced feature but a central feature of an identity, so it needs to be moved to the "General" tab to avoid it being missed when setting up a new identity.
While it might be preset to the default, the select box also shouldn't be disabled for the same reasons. The checkbox can go away.

To avoid being abused by spammers, SMTP servers usually won't accept mails with a "from" address that doesn't belong to the account. This might include aliases but no completely different addresses.
Therefore, in most cases, "outgoing account" needs to be set to a correct when creating a new identity.

I consider this a UI bug, because it will lead to configurations that simply don't work and to irritated users that don't know what is wrong.

Reproducible: Always

Comment 1 Bernd Oliver Sünderhauf 2012-11-28 11:49:50 UTC

Also, the select box shouldn't only show the display name, but additionally user@mailserver, or just the mailserver if the SMTP server doesn't require a login.
The name alone might not be meaningful enough, and as I said, it is often crucial to choose the right outgoing server.

Comment 2 Bernd Oliver Sünderhauf 2012-11-28 14:06:05 UTC

Even better would be "(user@mailserver:port)".

Comment 3 Laurent Montel 2012-12-04 17:59:39 UTC

"The outgoing account isn't an advanced feature but a central feature of an identity, so it needs to be moved to the "General" tab to avoid it being missed when setting up a new identity."
I don't agree. By default we have 1 official smtp (official provider), so when you want to specify a smtp it's a advanced feature.

Comment 4 Bernd Oliver Sünderhauf 2012-12-04 18:06:18 UTC

Hmm, okay.
For now I'm setting this to WAITINGFORINFO, and will do some more research before reopening.

Comment 5 Andrew Crouthamel 2018-09-24 01:57:18 UTC

Dear Bug Submitter,

This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least 15 days. Please provide the requested information as soon as possible and set the bug status as REPORTED. Due to regular bug tracker maintenance, if the bug is still in NEEDSINFO status with no change in 30 days, the bug will be closed as RESOLVED > WORKSFORME due to lack of needed information.

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Comment 6 Andrew Crouthamel 2018-10-27 02:42:49 UTC

Dear Bug Submitter,

This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least 30 days. The bug is now closed as RESOLVED > WORKSFORME due to lack of needed information.

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