| Summary: | Konsole menus do not have accelerator/shortcut keys | ||
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| Product: | [Applications] konsole | Reporter: | baitfish |
| Component: | general | Assignee: | Konsole Developer <konsole-devel> |
| Status: | CLOSED FIXED | ||
| Severity: | normal | ||
| Priority: | NOR | ||
| Version: | unspecified | ||
| Target Milestone: | --- | ||
| Platform: | Compiled Sources | ||
| OS: | Linux | ||
| Latest Commit: | Version Fixed In: | ||
| Sentry Crash Report: | |||
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Description
baitfish
2001-07-10 13:52:03 UTC
On Tuesday 10. July 2001 15:52 baitfish@bigpond.com wrote: > Package: konsole > Version: unknown (using KDE 2.2.0 alpha2) > Severity: normal > Installed from: compiled sources > Compiler: gcc version 2.95.3 19991030 (prerelease) > OS: Linux (i686) release 2.2.17-21mdk > OS/Compiler notes: > > In Konsole you can't press ALT+F to reach the File Menu etc. If this is > because of a possible conflict with some programs' shortcut keys then at > least provide some shortcut key to open up another console session (CTRL+N > perhaps) and allow this key to be changed. > > Currently users with no mice find that opening another konsole session > somewhat difficult to say the least :) > It's a feature because konsole is used to run applications that may use e.g. alt-f Greetings Stephan -- People in cars cause accidents. Accidents in cars cause people. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D3_01C10CCA.EB1789C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! *please* provide an option to let the user choose a key combination to open= up a new konsole session if the user desires it. Thanks George <snip> From: Stephan Kulow <coolo at kde.org> To: 28632-close at bugs.kde.org Subject: Re: Bug#28632: Konsole menus do not have accelerator/shortcut keys On Tuesday 10. July 2001 15:52 baitfish@bigpond.com wrote: > Package: konsole > Version: unknown (using KDE 2.2.0 alpha2) > Severity: normal > Installed from: compiled sources > Compiler: gcc version 2.95.3 19991030 (prerelease) > OS: Linux (i686) release 2.2.17-21mdk > OS/Compiler notes: > > In Konsole you can't press ALT+F to reach the File Menu etc. If this is > because of a possible conflict with some programs' shortcut keys then at > least provide some shortcut key to open up another console session (CTRL+= N > perhaps) and allow this key to be changed. > > Currently users with no mice find that opening another konsole session > somewhat difficult to say the least :) > It's a feature because konsole is used to run applications that may use e.g= .=20 alt-f Greetings Stephan </snip> ------=_NextPart_000_00D3_01C10CCA.EB1789C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4616.200" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>*please* provide an option to let the user= choose a=20 key combination to open up a new konsole session if the user desires=20 it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>George</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman"><snip></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">From: </FONT><FONT= =20 face=3D"Times New Roman"><B>Stephan Kulow <coolo at kde.org><BR></B>T= o:=20 28632-close at bugs.kde.org<BR>Subject: </FONT><FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman"><B>Re: Bug#28632: Konsole menus do not have=20 accelerator/shortcut keys</B></FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FON= T=20 face=3D"Times New Roman"></DIV></FONT><PRE><FONT size=3D3>On Tuesday 10. J= uly 2001 15:52 baitfish@bigpond.com wrote: </FONT><FONT size=3D3><I><FONT color=3D#191970>> Package: konsole > Version: unknown (using KDE 2.2.0 alpha2) > Severity: normal > Installed from: compiled sources > Compiler: gcc version 2.95.3 19991030 (prerelease) > OS: Linux (i686) release 2.2.17-21mdk > OS/Compiler notes: </FONT></I>> </FONT><FONT size=3D3><I><FONT color=3D#191970>> In Konsole you can't p= ress ALT+F to reach the File Menu etc. If this is > because of a possible conflict with some programs' shortcut keys then= at > least provide some shortcut key to open up another console session (CT= RL+N > perhaps) and allow this key to be changed. </FONT></I>> </FONT><FONT size=3D3><I><FONT color=3D#191970>> Currently users with n= o mice find that opening another konsole session > somewhat difficult to say the least :) </FONT></I>> It's a feature because konsole is used to run applications that may use e.g= .=20 alt-f Greetings Stephan </snip></FONT> </PRE></FONT></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_00D3_01C10CCA.EB1789C0-- --------------Boundary-00=_SLZGRCZZDAGDYXXZ307I Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Already there in the default keytab. CTRL-Alt-N If you use another keytab set the key combo of your chouce to fire the action 'newSession'. -Chris ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Bug#28632: Konsole menus do not have accelerator/shortcut keys Date: Sun 15 Jul 2001 01:10:20 +1000 From: "George Petri" <baitfish@bigpond.com> To: <28632@bugs.kde.org> Cc: <coolo@kde.org> Hi! *please* provide an option to let the user choose a key combination to open up a new konsole session if the user desires it. Thanks George <snip> From: Stephan Kulow <coolo at kde.org> To: 28632-close at bugs.kde.org Subject: Re: Bug#28632: Konsole menus do not have accelerator/shortcut keys On Tuesday 10. July 2001 15:52 baitfish@bigpond.com wrote: > Package: konsole > Version: unknown (using KDE 2.2.0 alpha2) > Severity: normal > Installed from: compiled sources > Compiler: gcc version 2.95.3 19991030 (prerelease) > OS: Linux (i686) release 2.2.17-21mdk > OS/Compiler notes: > > In Konsole you can't press ALT+F to reach the File Menu etc. If this is > because of a possible conflict with some programs' shortcut keys then at > least provide some shortcut key to open up another console session (CTRL+N > perhaps) and allow this key to be changed. > > Currently users with no mice find that opening another konsole session > somewhat difficult to say the least :) It's a feature because konsole is used to run applications that may use e.g. alt-f Greetings Stephan </snip> ------------------------------------------------------- --------------Boundary-00=_SLZGRCZZDAGDYXXZ307I Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="Attachment: 1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4616.200" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>*please* provide an option to let the user= choose a=20 key combination to open up a new konsole session if the user desires=20 it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>George</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman"><snip></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">From: </FONT><FONT= =20 face=3D"Times New Roman"><B>Stephan Kulow <coolo at kde.org><BR></B>T= o:=20 28632-close at bugs.kde.org<BR>Subject: </FONT><FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman"><B>Re: Bug#28632: Konsole menus do not have=20 accelerator/shortcut keys</B></FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FON= T=20 face=3D"Times New Roman"></DIV></FONT><PRE><FONT size=3D3>On Tuesday 10. J= uly 2001 15:52 baitfish@bigpond.com wrote: </FONT><FONT size=3D3><I><FONT color=3D#191970>> Package: konsole > Version: unknown (using KDE 2.2.0 alpha2) > Severity: normal > Installed from: compiled sources > Compiler: gcc version 2.95.3 19991030 (prerelease) > OS: Linux (i686) release 2.2.17-21mdk > OS/Compiler notes: </FONT></I>> </FONT><FONT size=3D3><I><FONT color=3D#191970>> In Konsole you can't p= ress ALT+F to reach the File Menu etc. If this is > because of a possible conflict with some programs' shortcut keys then= at > least provide some shortcut key to open up another console session (CT= RL+N > perhaps) and allow this key to be changed. </FONT></I>> </FONT><FONT size=3D3><I><FONT color=3D#191970>> Currently users with n= o mice find that opening another konsole session > somewhat difficult to say the least :) </FONT></I>> It's a feature because konsole is used to run applications that may use e.g= .=20 alt-f Greetings Stephan </snip></FONT> </PRE></FONT></BODY></HTML> --------------Boundary-00=_SLZGRCZZDAGDYXXZ307I-- > *please* provide an option to let the user choose a key combination
> to open up a new konsole session if the user desires it.
Define your own keyboard settings and use the "newSession" command
provided since 2.2beta. Or press CTRL-ALT-N when using the hardcoded.
I suggest to add shortcuts to *all* the toplevel-menus. I know that it might be a problem with applications that do use the weirdest key-combinations but that is a problem with other (X- Gnome-) applications as well so I don't think that is a killer-argument. Package: kdelibs3 Version: 4:2.2.1-5 Package: konsole Version: 4:2.2.1-4 You are writing that: > Define your own keyboard settings and use the "newSession" command > provided since 2.2beta. Or press CTRL-ALT-N when using the hardcoded. Yes - but how can I get to the menu? Additionaly in the README.KeyTab you are writing about *some* operations and keys. What about the "Windows" and "Menu" special keys on modern keyboards? They are not used in X applications as of now. They could be used for general menu access in Konsole even in KDE and Gnome in general?!?! *t ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Tomas Pospisek sourcepole - Linux & Open Source Solutions http://sourcepole.com Elestastrasse 18 7310 Bad Ragaz Switzerland Tel:+41 (81) 330 77 13 Fax:+41 (81) 330 77 12 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > I suggest to add shortcuts to *all* the toplevel-menus. I know that > it might be a problem with applications that do use the weirdest And it's a problem that you cannot use standard keyboard shortcut routines of KDE for this. You would IMO have to deliver KeyTabs for every language! > > Define your own keyboard settings and use the "newSession" command > > provided since 2.2beta. Or press CTRL-ALT-N when using the hardcoded. > Yes - but how can I get to the menu? Additionaly in the README.KeyTab you CTRL-ALT-m with Konsole of KDE 2.9 and up with hardcoded default.KeyTab. Just following Stephan Kulow's instructions about changing email addresses for bug reports :) Please do not continue sending to baitfish@bigpond.com. My sincere apologies if I am clogging up the kde-bugs mailinglists. Yes it is right to not have ctrl-f etc because it *could* interfear with a console app but you shouldn't remove it beforhand you should have an option to disable it. Recently when running apt-get update it killed my mouse. But because I coudn't ctrl-f I couldn't stop any of the compiles in the other teminals to restart X. You can deviate from the standard but only if a user chooses because at that time you can tell them the alternate way of doing something. I hadn't a clue what to do once the mouse died because ctrl-f wasn't there. Without using the combo how am I suppost to get to menu? -Benjamin Meyer On Thursday 13 December 2001 15:04 Benjamin Meyer wrote:
> Recently when running apt-get update it killed my mouse. But because I
> coudn't ctrl-f I couldn't stop any of the compiles in the other teminals to
> restart X. [..] I hadn't a clue what to do once the mouse died because ctrl-f
> wasn't there. Without using the combo how am I suppost to get to menu?
Switch session with Shift-Cursor Left/Right. Use Alt-F12 for mouse emulation.
And as already written CTRL-ALT-m with Konsole of KDE 2.9 and up opens menu.
Bye
Steve
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