Bug 243776

Summary:	Fresh installed KDE have window placement behavior set to "maximised" by default
Product:	[Unmaintained] plasma4	Reporter:	Lukas Dolezal <lu.dolezal>
Component:	plasma-netbook	Assignee:	Marco Martin <notmart>
Status:	RESOLVED DOWNSTREAM
Severity:	normal	CC:	kwin-bugs-null
Priority:	NOR
Version:	unspecified
Target Milestone:	---
Platform:	Ubuntu
OS:	Linux
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Description Lukas Dolezal 2010-07-06 17:49:32 UTC

Version:           unspecified (using Devel) 
OS:                Linux

Ubuntu 10.04
KDE 4.5 RC1 from kubuntu PPA

I erased whole ~/.kde on my testing user. Then I logged in KDE at first with this user and all opened windows were maximized. I looked in system settings->windows behavior->advanced and there is selected "smart" placement. But in fact, it is "maximised" active. After I changed it to something else, applied and then back to "smart", then only is "smart" placement enabled.

I don't know if default values are hardcoded in KDE or these are stored somewhere in shared directories. If second, I can post it.

Thanks.

PS: At first look 4.5 looks realy more polished than before, especialy systemsettings :) Good work..

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
remove ~/.kde
start KDE session

Actual Results:  
Window behavior placement is set to "maximized" by default

Expected Results:  
Default placement should be "smart"

Comment 1 Lukas Dolezal 2010-07-06 19:06:40 UTC

I discovered new think, that this is a part of something else.

I wanted to fill next bug that hides window titlebar when it is maximized. But I searched some config because on my regular user account (and ~/.kde) it isn't happening. And I found it. By default I have somewhere "inside" configured "netbook plasma workspace", so windows are behaving as I described. But plasma looks normal - panel at bottom, one folderview at desktop, instead of "search activity" as netbook.

So:
1. remove ~/.kde
2. login

What is wrong:
a. Windows are by default maximized
b. Maximized windows have hidden titlebar (and is touch edge with menubar)
c. In systemsettings there are placement set to "smart" and plasma workspace to "desktop"

How to solve:
1. apply plasma workspace type to "netbook"
2. apply back to "desktop"

So but I didn't search any report about this, I'm afraid that this is Kubuntu PPA thing, but I searched for some patches to original KDE source and I didn't discover anything :(

Comment 2 Martin Flöser 2010-07-06 20:00:23 UTC

The switch to Plasma Netbook is only done by Plasma - KWin's default are the desktop ones. Therefore reassigning to more competent persons. Maybe they have a clue what could be wrong. It's also possible that it is related to some packaging issue.

Comment 3 Lukas Dolezal 2010-07-06 23:07:24 UTC

Ok, it was confirmed what I wrote.

In kubuntu exists extra packages with brand-specific default setting for standard kubuntu (kubuntu-default-settings) and for netbook version (kubuntu-netbook-default-settings) as extension.

And my problem was caused by first logging in KDE, which used the netbook default settings, while I didn't erased .config/autostart directory containing "plasma-desktop.desktop" file. It was reason why I got normal desktop plasma look but strange (for desktop but normal for netbook) windows behavior.

When I deleted .kde and .config and login again, it was fine.

But I think that something can be better. When I ex post study settings file, there was "BorderlessMaximizedWindows" option in netbook's kwinrc. And I didn't find anywhere in system-setting some checkbox for this option. And I think that it was my first problem.
I think that, even it can be applied some-way internally by workspace-type (desktop/netbook), it should be configurable by user.

Thank you ;)

Comment 4 Martin Flöser 2010-07-07 10:35:04 UTC

Actually there is a user interface option to change this setting, but it is tied to the formfactor. If you select netbook you get the borderless maximized windows, if you select desktop you get borders. That's exactly what we want to have.

The other issue you experienced is a packaging issue. So please report to kubuntu developers at launchpad.net. Thanks