Bug 171915

Summary:	System Settings has no menu bar
Product:	[Applications] systemsettings	Reporter:	Jan Gerrit Marker <jangerrit>
Component:	general	Assignee:	System Settings Bugs <sourtooth+ssbugs>
Status:	RESOLVED FIXED
Severity:	wishlist	CC:	cfeck, kde-2011.08, l.lunak, reavertm
Priority:	NOR
Version:	unspecified
Target Milestone:	---
Platform:	openSUSE
OS:	Linux
Latest Commit:		Version Fixed In:
Sentry Crash Report:

Description Jan Gerrit Marker 2008-09-30 20:21:02 UTC

Version:           4.1.1 (using KDE 4.1.1)
OS:                Linux
Installed from:    SuSE RPMs

If you go back to the overview there is no exit button anywhere.

Comment 1 Ben Cooksley 2009-11-23 05:03:58 UTC

*** Bug 211307 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 2 Christoph Feck 2009-12-02 13:49:16 UTC

I was once hit by this when I had to use twm as a fallback window manager. You can move/resize/iconify windows with this goody, but it does not seem to have close buttons on windows...

Exiting System Settings? Nada.

Comment 3 Dotan Cohen 2010-02-25 09:44:28 UTC

The problem is tha there is no menubar in System Settings, in violation of the KDE HIG.

Comment 4 Ben Cooksley 2010-02-25 09:57:24 UTC

System Settings deliberately has no menu bar as it is simply a waste of space.

The original System Settings from KDE 3, used by Kubuntu, and designed by their developers with assistance from usability experts did not have a menu bar. See https://help.ubuntu.com/5.10/kubuntu/images/C/kubuntu-systemsettings.png

Implementing an Exit button would additionally over clutter the toolbar.

Comment 5 Dotan Cohen 2010-02-25 10:21:01 UTC

> System Settings deliberately has no menu bar as it is
> simply a waste of space.

Can you please explain to me how the menu bar would take less space than the current row of icons? It would perform the same function, and also add an Exit button.

Comment 6 Ben Cooksley 2010-02-25 10:26:39 UTC

Switching a menu bar in to replace the toolbar would be worse.... and would still violate the HIG....

1) the Search bar would have to be positioned in the menu bar, and would look out of place

2) more clicks would be required to go back, or configure System Settings

In addition, it would complicate the user interface as it will not be immediately obvious "how to get back to the selection screen"

Comment 7 Lubos Lunak 2010-02-25 11:15:43 UTC

There is still no exit action anywhere.

Comment 8 Ben Cooksley 2010-02-25 19:57:13 UTC

SVN commit 1096082 by bcooksley:

Add an exit button
BUG: 171915

 M  +1 -0      systemsettingsui.rc  


WebSVN link: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=1096082

Comment 9 Maciej Mrozowski 2010-08-09 11:07:32 UTC

Any application window (apart from those that steal keyboard focus like konsole) can be terminated with Ctrl-Q (Systemsettings->Standard Keyboard Shortcuts->Quit) even when window manager (like kwin) is not running or is running but does not provide any buttons.
You can try this with kinfocenter (no exit action) in prior killing kwin.

So it's not like there are no ways to close such windows.
Ben, please consider reverting this commit (as you already pointed out it breaks HIG standards) and point users to Systemsettings->Standard Keyboard Shortcuts->Quit instead.