Bug 165402

Changing component to plasma (I hope that's right) and marking Priority to Hi as this is an accessibility issue as I am having a hard time using KDE 4 without this applet. Thanks.

I've see a "keyboard leds" applet in playground but it is not yet completed.

I am googling but cannot find it. Can you provide a link, so that I can see if this meets the needs of the Sticky Keys people?

I notice that the priority has been moved down to NOR again. For those with 10 operable fingers who do not rely on Sticky Keys this applet may seem unimportant. For me, it is the difference between typing and not typing. Please reconsider returning the priority to HI as I (and others like me) will be unable to use KDE 4 until this is implemented. Thanks.

asnwer to question from comment #3 was provided at http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-accessibility&m=121901525332454&w=2

So, it works and we can close the bugreport :)

@Dotan
If you don't agree please reopen or create a new bugreport with details what is missing so we can implement it. Thanks for the feedback.

Thank you Sebastian, but the Keyboard LEDs applet does not suit the needs of Sticky Keys users. The Keyboard LEDs applet only shows the Caps Lock, Scroll Lock, and Num lock status. Sticky Keys users need these functions (provided by the Show Keyboard Status applet in KDE 3.x):
* Shift key status
* Ctrl key status
* Tux key status
* Alt key status
These are the modifier keys that Sticky Keys makes sticky.

I am reopening this bug instead of filing a new bug against the Keyboard LEDs applet because the scope of the Show Keyboard Status applet is not the same scope as that of the Keyboard LEDs applet. They serve two separate purposes.

Thanks.

Thanks Dotan,

and finally I also found the KDE 3.5 applet we are talking about :)
It is at http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdeaccessibility/kbstateapplet and was not ported yet it seems.

I did not know that it had to be found! I would have linked two months ago.

Thanks!

I hate to be a pest, but has there been work on this? Who can I corrupt with a beer (or six) to have this implemented? I would like to upgrade to KDE 4.1 but I simply cannot do so until this applet is ported. Thanks in advance!

FWIW, the Plasma keyboard LED applet has been moved to kdereview and will be part of 4.2.

As stated in Comment #5, the Keyboard LED applet is not worth anything to those affected by this bug. It does not show modifier key status. Sticky Keys users need these functions (provided by the Show Keyboard Status applet in KDE 3.x):
* Shift key status
* Ctrl key status
* Tux key status
* Alt key status
These are the modifier keys that Sticky Keys makes sticky.

I am changing the priority to HI as Suse is removing support for KDE 3 and KDE 4 is unusable to people with specific disabilities without this applet.

FYI; I agree absolute re priority and started already to port kdstateapplet into a Plasma applet. Should land within next days depending on remaining issues mixed with free time ;)

Thanks, Sebastian! You guys are the greatest, absolute greatest team of software devs, ever!

I cannot find this Panel Applet in recent Trunk builds. Am I missing something? I would like to start testing and possibly file bugs on the applet. Thanks.

The latest commit digest mentioned it: http://commit-digest.org/issues/2008-11-02/moreinfo/875994/

It's still in kdereview.

Suse did took the version that is in kdereview; http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3746
Kubuntu may do the same; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeaccessibility/+bug/289440

According to the discusion at http://lists.kde.org/?t=123116233700007&r=1&w=2 we need to;
* we will move the kbstate-plasmoid to kdebase/workspace in 4.3 rather then to kdeplasma-addons cause it needs to be part of the core package.
* improve artwork (use SVG and Plasma-Theme)

Is this ready for debase/workspace?

If you need someone to work on the artwork I will give it a shot.

It is unclear to me if this essential plasmoid will be included in KDE 4.3. Could someone please clarify? Thanks.

Revision 963596 - Directory Listing 
 Modified Mon May 4 22:59:10 2009 UTC (5 days, 21 hours ago) by aseigo 
move back to playground; the UI is horrific, the code is ancient and apparently it has no developer to be its constant companion

> move back to playground; the UI is horrific, the code
> is ancient and apparently it has no developer to be its
> constant companion

What? This is an important accessibility issue. Us silly disabled users do not care if the UI is horrific or if the code is ancient. We care that we can at least use the computer!

This plasmoid became available in kde4.2  as part of the "kde4-plasma-addons" package under Suse 11.1 but then after I upgraded to KDE 4.3 it disappeared. It seems that KDE4.3 calls the packages "plasma-addons" and does not included this utility. I am not sure if this is distribution specific or a problem with KDE 4 in general. Is there a way to manually download and install this utility?

@John: Suse added the plasmoid, KDE 4.2 did not ship with it. I don't know why Suse removed it for 4.3. You might want to ask on the Suse list and file an issue on the Suse bugtracker.

Sebastian, is there an ETA for this issue? This plasmoid is very necessary for users with manual disabilities.

Any updates on this feature?

And this is really needed for netbook users that does not have such indicator on keyboard... like Asus Eee PC. It's hard to work without it.

(In reply to comment #25)
> And this is really needed for netbook users that does not have such indicator
> on keyboard... like Asus Eee PC. It's hard to work without it.
It is also a serious issue for certain desktop keyboards, like the Logitech MX 3200, which does not have leds by itself, but (on Windows) relies on the capability of the OS to display the status.

(In reply to comment #26)
> It is also a serious issue for certain desktop keyboards, like the Logitech MX
> 3200, which does not have leds by itself, but (on Windows) relies on the
> capability of the OS to display the status.

/+1. (MX3200 user)

- Gilboa

Hi,

I've written a plasmoid some time ago which might be interesting for you.
Check out this forum post: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=157&t=86964#p153417

What's missing is probably an "Icon Layout".
Also the settings dialog probably has to be redone (I'm not good at UI stuff - I just wanted to get the UI working somehow...).

Feel free to ping me if you have questions/ideas how my plasmoid could be improved.

Even in it's early state, Martin's plasmoid is a suitable replacement for the KDE 3 "show keyboard status" applet. As soon as it is included in KDE, this issue can be closed.

Trying to install the widget under F13/x86_64 4.5rc2 fails with no apparent error.
Any idea what's wrong?

(In reply to comment #30)
> Trying to install the widget under F13/x86_64 4.5rc2 fails with no apparent
> error.

Dotan got the same problem.
I'm not sure if it's my code's fault or if something else is broken.
Could you try starting my plasmoid with plasmoidviewer (just unzip the plasmoid file somewhere and run "plasmoidviewer ." from there)

PS: I think any discussion regarding my plasmoid should be done somewhere else :)
Maybe we should move it to kde-accessibility as there's already a thread for it:
http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-accessibility&m=127896530222730&w=2

Martin, has there been any progress with your plasmoid? Thanks!

Unfortunately there has been no progress.
I'm doing my final exams right now so I don't have that much free time.

I will have a look at the plasmoid though, as it causes high CPU load on my box.
And once I started again I can move on to the other open tasks... ;)

Hello, Can you provide me screen shot of older widget, functionality and more information? I am ready to develop it.

Thank you Bhushan! These two screenshots from an earlier bug show the widget in the lower right corner:
http://bugsfiles.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=32085
http://bugsfiles.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=32086

Created attachment 81170 [details]
Screenshot

Attached is a screenshot of the keystate widget (grey) and the keyboard layout widget (flag) as I currently have them on a top panel.

Thanks!

Isn't this issue obsolete?

(In reply to Nikolaos Kakouros from comment #37)
> Isn't this issue obsolete?

Updated title to KDE 5. Thanks, Nikolaos.

From https://marc.info/?l=kde-accessibility&m=121901525332454&w=2 linked above, it looks like the code is at https://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/base/plasma/applets/keyboardLeds/ - in case that helps anyone get started.

I have ported my "KeyState Plasmoid" to KF5 back in 2016
you can get it here:
https://github.com/xdarklight/keystate-plasmoid
https://www.linux-apps.com/p/998903/

Created attachment 154880 [details]
Martins port of his keystate-plasmoid

(In reply to Martin Blumenstingl from comment #40)
> I have ported my "KeyState Plasmoid" to KF5 back in 2016
> you can get it here:
> https://github.com/xdarklight/keystate-plasmoid
> https://www.linux-apps.com/p/998903/

Tried installing it on 5.26.4 and it works! See attachment.

I would love to see this worked on and included in the official kde packages, why not in the official Keyboard-indicator?
* new icons
* option to see all keys at once with color changes depending on state.
* possibility to activate sticky-keys from applet
* press the respective icon to activate it

Now that sticky-keys hopefully makes it to wayland, see https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/merge_requests/3365 it would be great for me and my "one-armed" friends