Summary: | several regressions from KDE 3.5 | ||
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Product: | [Applications] kmix | Reporter: | Adam Spiers <kde-bugs> |
Component: | general | Assignee: | Christian Esken <esken> |
Status: | RESOLVED FIXED | ||
Severity: | wishlist | CC: | rdieter |
Priority: | NOR | ||
Version: | unspecified | ||
Target Milestone: | --- | ||
Platform: | Fedora RPMs | ||
OS: | Linux | ||
Latest Commit: | Version Fixed In: | ||
Attachments: |
New channel selector (smaller, more standard, more featureful)
First version of control grouping |
Description
Adam Spiers
2008-06-18 16:16:27 UTC
Comments: - Master channel should not be missing. Is it probably called "Front" instead? If yes, then this is intentional, as the control that ALSA calls Master is actually NOT a master. - Handbook was not yet updated. - Reordering channels was never possible in KDE3 => no regression - Reordering channels is possible in KDE4. This is actually new, but undocumented, as it cannot be done via GUI yet. Please see the KDEDIR/share/apps/kmix/profiles/ for an example - I don't understand the issue with the slider width. In KDE4 the window adjusts to the sliders exactly as in KDE3 I have a similar problem: The master channel seems to be renamed to front to. But now I have to front channels. By comparing 3.5.x and 4.1 versions of kmix I found out that the first front channel is corresponding to the master and the second one was called front channel in 3.5.x too. This is somewhat confusing too me. Additionally the kmix applet shows the pcm channel instead of the master/front. As the pcm channel does not affect the master volume (driver bug?), the panel applet is currently not usable. Is there any possibility to get the master channel back and mapped to the kmix applet? Dominik, a)use the context menu on the try icon to select a different master. b)If the PCM control doesn't operate, please test with a different mixer. If it doesn't work there also, file a bug at the soundcard driver (ALSA?) project. If it works, file another bug in bugs.kde.org. In any case, please post the ouput of "amixer" (or "amixer -c 1" or any other number that corresponds to the affected soundcard) as attachment here. Hi Christian, thanks for your replies so far. (In reply to comment #1) > Comments: > - Master channel should not be missing. Is it probably called "Front" instead? > If yes, then this is intentional, as the control that ALSA calls Master is > actually NOT a master. OK thanks; is this explained in detail in some release notes anywhere as I found it quite confusing and would expect others to be confused by it too. > - Handbook was not yet updated. I understand that there is often not enough time to update the documentation too - in these cases I would recommend putting a prominent warning at the beginning of the handbook saying that it is out of date. This would only take a few minutes to do and would eliminate a lot of confusion. > - Reordering channels was never possible in KDE3 => no regression I didn't actually claim it was possible :-) Rather that it was not necessary because the channels arguably appeared in a more intuitive order than they do now. > - Reordering channels is possible in KDE4. This is actually new, but > undocumented, as it cannot be done via GUI yet. Please see the > KDEDIR/share/apps/kmix/profiles/ for an example That's cool; I look forward to seeing it in the GUI! > - I don't understand the issue with the slider width. In KDE4 the window > adjusts to the sliders exactly as in KDE3 I'm talking about the _slider_width_ adjusting to the window _width_. So if you make the window wider, the sliders get fatter. This allows the user to choose how much spacing there is between each slider. This is especially important given the regression of the input/output/switches tabs being removed, since for example my NVidia CK804 has no less than 23 vertical "columns" (sliders or switches of various sorts) which even on a 1600x1200 display makes the mixer horribly crowded. Is there any chance of bring those three tabs back? It was much nicer this way with a separate dropdown to select which soundcard you are mixing. Reordering channels will be possible via GUI (drag-n-drop interface), starting with KDE4.4. See screenshot. About the "input/output/switches" I am undecided about how to do it yet. I am pretty sure it won't be "traditional tabs", but groups "inside" the existinng tab. There are various issues with it still, but the basic concept is done. I'll add a preliminary screenshot with very limited (bad) GUI design. Created attachment 33522 [details]
New channel selector (smaller, more standard, more featureful)
Created attachment 33523 [details]
First version of control grouping
Very early screenshot. Will also allow to recreate a design, that resembles the traditional (KDE3) "input/output/switches" design.
- Master channel should not be missing. Is it probably called "Front" instead? If yes, then this is intentional, as the control that ALSA calls Master is actually NOT a master. has been changed back, as it confused too many users. - Handbook was not yet updated. Done - Reordering channels was never possible in KDE3 => no regression - Reordering channels is possible in KDE4. This is actually new, but undocumented, as it cannot be done via GUI yet. Please see the KDEDIR/share/apps/kmix/profiles/ for an example Done - I don't understand the issue with the slider width. In KDE4 the window adjusts to the sliders exactly as in KDE3 Window sizing has been changed. Hopefully everything is fine. If not,please open a new bug report. |