| Summary: | request for konsole plasmoid | ||
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| Product: | [Unmaintained] plasma4 | Reporter: | James <morris.570> |
| Component: | general | Assignee: | Plasma Bugs List <plasma-bugs> |
| Status: | RESOLVED FIXED | ||
| Severity: | wishlist | CC: | asraniel, finex, l.lunak, martinkunev, periliocastrol, tomfasching |
| Priority: | NOR | ||
| Version: | unspecified | ||
| Target Milestone: | --- | ||
| Platform: | Ubuntu | ||
| OS: | Linux | ||
| Latest Commit: | Version Fixed In: | ||
| Sentry Crash Report: | |||
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Description
James
2008-01-23 17:18:17 UTC
The feature still exists in KWin, but in KDE3 it was triggered from Kicker. Are there any plans to add this to Plasma? not at this point, no. the dashboard view is indeed meant to address exactly these sorts of issues, though. to the reporter: i suppose the issue is that you can't have random windows there. well, part of the idea (for me, at least) is to get away from apps doing random hacks to random windows. it would make a lot more sense to have a konsole plasmoid. with WoC in qt 4.1 this should even be possible. trivial even. and then, yes, the dashboard view would be all you'd need. > However, now with kde4 I can't jump to my desktop and work on one of my many
> terminals because this feature has been removed--I have to use the
> mouse everytime!
It sounds like what you are trying to do is exactly what virtual desktops are designed for and that is supported by KDE 4.0
Put all your windows on your primary desktop and a terminal on another one, then define a keyboard shortcut to switch between them, or use the pager applet on the panel.
Alternatively Yakuake provides a terminal which is only ever a single keystroke (F12) away.
The problem with virtual desktops is if I run a command from the terminal (or just in the virtual desktop), say konqueror, it opens in that virtual desktop. Soon that virtual desktop becomes so polluted that I can no longer see my konsole without the much-needed "show desktop" shortcut. As for yakuake, this is always on top, which is the opposite from what I want. I need to be able to have a konsole behind everything accepting focus, so I can, say, read a browser window and type in the konsole in the background, or type in a number from qalculate, or reference a pdf while I fix code. Basically the dashboard, virtual desktops, and yakuake all fail at the ultimate usability feature (for me): having my primary app (konsole) at a glance (partially visible) at all times, and fully visible when necessary (which was possible with "show desktop" shortcut and a konsole embedded in the desktop. If you use tons of terminals like I do, try it with kde 3.5 konsole and devilspie, I think you'll like it so much, you won't go back. I rarely have to use the mouse. i understand exactly what you're asking for. which is why i suggested you'd want a konsole plasmoid. that way you can stack it on a desktop containment and it'll always be on your desktop below your windows; no devilspie or other hacks required. press ctrl+f12 and it's above your windows, if you care to have that (e.g. you want to see the whole thing), which makes the show desktop bit unnecessary. even nicer, once we have multiple containment switching in, you could have multiple sets of these layouts and switch between them, so if you have 4 terms you use in situation A and a different 4 in situation B, you can have two desktop containments and switch between them as you desire. this "design my interface" concept is pretty central to the whole plasma experience. with Qt 4.4's WoC we can fairly easily put things like konsole itself on the canvas. hell, you could put it in a panel if you wanted ;) really, i see this as a "konsole plasmoid" wish. The way you described it would probably meet all my useability needs. When do we expect this to be implemented? ;) James Aaron J.Seigo wrote: [bugs.kde.org quoted mail] WoC is 4.1, and when that support appears it will be pretty trivial to do a konsole plasmoid as we can most likely just show the konsole kpart directly. neat. Hi, I have created a Konsole plasmoid. It can be found here: http://bonkel.wordpress.com/2008/06/03/konsole-embedded-in-plasma/ The current known bugs are: 1. Text draws in the top left of the screen no matter where the plasmoid is placed. See screen shot 3 in the blog post. This is a bug in Konsole. The bug is reported here: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163178 A patch has been attached. 2. TAB completion doesn’t work 3. No easy way to turn of konsole’s background drawing. *** Bug 173308 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** i would like to sign this request as much needed, thx :) There is also: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/base/plasma/applets/embed-win/ I've tried it last year and it worked quite well. Have a look at this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=108120 I mark this as closed, since there is more than one konsole plasmoid now |