| Summary: | Problems with folder permissions | ||
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| Product: | [Unmaintained] kmail | Reporter: | Hans-J. Ullrich <hans.ullrich> |
| Component: | maildir | Assignee: | kdepim bugs <kdepim-bugs> |
| Status: | RESOLVED WORKSFORME | ||
| Severity: | crash | ||
| Priority: | NOR | ||
| Version: | 1.9.8 | ||
| Target Milestone: | --- | ||
| Platform: | Debian testing | ||
| OS: | Linux | ||
| Latest Commit: | Version Fixed In: | ||
| Sentry Crash Report: | |||
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Description
Hans-J. Ullrich
2007-11-03 11:45:14 UTC
>When trying to push the LAST(!) Mail into the trash, kmail crashes with segfault. Please provide a backtrace of this, see http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Debugging/How_to_create_useful_crash_reports . >I tried to manually set the file size of "trash" to zero I don't understand what you mean with this sentence. What exactly did you try to do? It seems that you have some sort of setup problem. Try to quit KMail, then delete the ~/Mail folder completely (after backing it up somewhere else, of course!). Then restart KMail and see if you still got the same problems. It should work fine then. Have you got any other mail program running at the same time? Did you restore you mail folder from some kind of backup? Am Sonntag 04 November 2007 schrieb Thomas McGuire: [bugs.kde.org quoted mail] Now I understand, why you ask. I removed the whole directory ~/M ail, and started kmail new. I checked, and dicovered now a new directory "drafts" and "trash" with some subdirectories "cur", "new" and "tmp". This is new ! Before it, there was only a FILE with the name "drafts" and one with "trash". To explain it, this is my directory listing. ------- snip --------- drwxr-xr-x 7 ullhan63 ullhan63 4096 2007-11-04 22:29 . drwxr-xr-x 241 ullhan63 ullhan63 12288 2007-11-04 22:20 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 ullhan63 ullhan63 94415 2007-11-04 22:20 drafts drwxr-xr-x 2 ullhan63 ullhan63 4096 2004-08-27 20:07 .drafts.directory -rw------- 1 ullhan63 ullhan63 33 2007-11-04 22:20 .drafts.index -rw-r--r-- 1 ullhan63 ullhan63 33 2007-11-04 22:20 .drafts.index.ids drwx------ 5 ullhan63 ullhan63 4096 2007-11-04 22:21 inbox -rw------- 1 ullhan63 ullhan63 2405 2007-11-04 22:21 .inbox.index -rw-r--r-- 1 ullhan63 ullhan63 69 2007-11-04 22:21 .inbox.index.ids -rw-r--r-- 1 ullhan63 ullhan63 417 2007-11-04 22:21 .inbox.index.sorted drwx------ 2 ullhan63 ullhan63 4096 2007-05-24 22:54 .KMail-Import.direct ory -rw-r--r-- 1 ullhan63 ullhan63 33 2007-05-24 22:54 .KMail-Import.index. ids drwx------ 3 ullhan63 ullhan63 4096 2007-09-06 17:29 .Kunden.directory -rw------- 1 ullhan63 ullhan63 0 2007-11-04 22:20 outbox -rw------- 1 ullhan63 ullhan63 33 2007-11-04 22:20 .outbox.index -rw-r--r-- 1 ullhan63 ullhan63 33 2007-11-04 22:20 .outbox.index.ids -rw------- 1 ullhan63 ullhan63 33 2007-11-04 22:20 .outlook-izn.index -rw-r--r-- 1 ullhan63 ullhan63 33 2007-11-04 22:20 .outlook-izn.index.i ds -rw------- 1 ullhan63 ullhan63 0 2007-11-03 19:07 sent-mail -rw------- 1 ullhan63 ullhan63 33 2007-11-03 19:07 .sent-mail.index -rw-r--r-- 1 ullhan63 ullhan63 33 2007-11-03 19:07 .sent-mail.index.ids drwx------ 5 ullhan63 ullhan63 4096 2007-11-04 22:20 templates -rw------- 1 ullhan63 ullhan63 33 2007-11-04 22:20 .templates.index -rw-r--r-- 1 ullhan63 ullhan63 33 2007-11-04 22:20 .templates.index.ids -rw------- 1 ullhan63 ullhan63 254946906 2007-11-04 22:21 trash -rw------- 1 ullhan63 ullhan63 33 2007-11-04 22:21 .trash.index -rw-r--r-- 1 ullhan63 ullhan63 33 2007-11-04 22:21 .trash.index.ids ------------ snap ----------------- You see, there is a FILE "trash" , not a DIRECTORY. This file is huge ! And it was this file, I set to a size of zero. IMO it should got the size of zero, whenever I deleted the whole folder "trash" (in the GUI of kmail). As I NEVER chenged anything manually below ~/Mail/, I could only imagine, this structure is because I am using kmail now for many years. Of course, I could delete ~/Mail, but I have a lot of Mails, I cannot delete and loose them. So, any idea, how I could import them ? > It seems that you have some sort of setup problem. Try to quit KMail, then > delete the ~/Mail folder completely (after backing it up somewhere else, of > course!). Then restart KMail and see if you still got the same problems. It > should work fine then. > Yes, this is what I tessted (see above) > Have you got any other mail program running at the same time? Did you > restore you mail folder from some kind of backup? No, I did not. Best regards Hans P.S. I checked this at my other computer (Debian sid, i386), and at this computer ther is the SAME structure as told above. Ah, I see what happened. For some reason, your old mail format was MBOX. The mbox format stores all mails of one folder in one big file. For performance reasons, when you delete a mail from an mbox folder, the mail is not removed from disk, since that would mean the rest of the mails in the MBOX file would need to change position, which is very slow for large mboxes. You can however "compact" a mbox folder, which should remove all deleted mails. See also bug 94992. I think having a "special" folder like inbox, outbox, drafts, trash and sent-mail in MBOX format is no longer supported by newer KMail versions, so you'll get problems with that. The format KMail now uses is maildir, and that is the recommended format. In maildir format, each folder has three subfolders on disk (cur, new, tmp), and each mail should be one file in cur. I suggest you use the new maildir format and import your old mails with File->Import Messages. If that does not work, there is another trick to get your old mails from the mbox files back: Create a new subfolder in KMail, which gives you the ability to chose MBOX format. Then quit KMail and replace the MBOX file which was just created with one of your old MBOX files (rename it to the correct name of course). If that works, I think this bug can be closed. Am Montag 05 November 2007 schrieb Thomas McGuire: [bugs.kde.org quoted mail] Yes, this is explaining it. > I think having a "special" folder like inbox, outbox, drafts, trash and > sent-mail in MBOX format is no longer supported by newer KMail versions, so > you'll get problems with that. > I deleted the mbox files and kmail created new directories in maildir format. There are no problems. > The format KMail now uses is maildir, and that is the recommended format. > In maildir format, each folder has three subfolders on disk (cur, new, > tmp), and each mail should be one file in cur. > > I suggest you use the new maildir format and import your old mails with > File->Import Messages. If that does not work, there is another trick to get > your old mails from the mbox files back: Create a new subfolder in KMail, > which gives you the ability to chose MBOX format. Then quit KMail and > replace the MBOX file which was just created with one of your old MBOX > files (rename it to the correct name of course). > I got another solution meanwhile: After creating the maildir directories as described above, I created a new local postbox for receiving my mails. Then I read the files ("trash" and so on) and pushed the required drafts manually in folder ~/Mail/drafts. No problems. > If that works, I think this bug can be closed. Yes, you can safely close this bug. I am happy, we got not only a solution, but a reason for this behaviour as well. Thank you all very much for your help. This is a good example, why I like linux now since many years: There is nothing weired, if something is not working, the problem is FAST solved, but people are always are telling, WHY it is not working and giving much information. In short words "OPEN" source. Again: Thank you very much ! Regards Hans Glad I could help you. Closing the bug report then. |