Bug 110228

Summary: default to freenode servers and #kopete channel on IRC account creation
Product: [Unmaintained] kopete Reporter: David Gerber <dg-kde>
Component: IRC PluginAssignee: Kopete Developers <kopete-bugs-null>
Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE    
Severity: wishlist    
Priority: NOR    
Version First Reported In: 0.9.2   
Target Milestone: ---   
Platform: unspecified   
OS: Linux   
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Description David Gerber 2005-08-05 13:20:01 UTC
Version:           0.9.2 (using KDE 3.3.2,  (testing/unstable))
Compiler:          gcc version 3.3.6 (Debian 1:3.3.6-7)
OS:                Linux (i686) release 2.6.12.2

When making a new IRC connection with kopete, it defaults to the first server in the list. The problem is that most users just let that one, join the most filled channel and ask about kopete questions which is quite an annoyance in the end. Creating a new IRC connection should default to a predefined network with a #kopete or #kopete-help channel where they can expect help/test the client.
Comment 1 Matt Rogers 2005-08-05 14:11:28 UTC
IRC is not kopete specific. If people need help with something kopete related, i would hope they're smart enough to check the kopete website where we tell you where you can get help about kopete. You should be annoyed at the users that show up in the largest channel and ask for help rather than their client.

Also, how would you choose sensible defaults here? sensible for me would be a server in the US since it's closest. sensible for somebody in europe would be a european server. sensible for somebody else on another network may be completely different. 

perhaps if you submit a patch with some "sensible" defaults, we can talk more.
Comment 2 David Gerber 2005-08-05 14:34:42 UTC
Sure, the world would be a better place if everyone was "smart enough", here are examples as fresh as today:

--> twilightelliot (twilightel@c-24-19-40-120.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined channel #opers
twilightelliot I'm using Kopete
twilightelliot KOPETE
<-- twilightelliot (twilightel@c-24-19-40-120.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has left channel #opers (Kopete 0.10 : http://kopete.kde.org).

--> Tag86 (Francesco@ppp-155-224.98-62.inwind.it) has joined channel #opers
Tag86 wii
<-- Tag86 (Francesco@ppp-155-224.98-62.inwind.it) has left channel #opers (Kopete 0.9.0 : http://kopete.kde.org).

--> BrokenBrain (fuckyou@adsl-69-231-20-79.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) has joined channel #opers
BrokenBrain hello
<-- BrokenBrain (fuckyou@adsl-69-231-20-79.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) has left channel #opers (Kopete 0.9.0 : http://kopete.kde.org).

--> sweet_aja (operator_s@219.83.4.45) has joined channel #opers
sweet_aja alow
sweet_aja hi
sweet_aja malam
sweet_aja hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
sweet_aja yuuhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
sweet_aja hehehehehehhe
<-- sweet_aja (operator_s@219.83.4.45) has left channel #opers (Kopete 0.9.0 : http://kopete.kde.org).
<djdk> Stupid Kopete-users.

--> maxgazebo (filippo77@d81-211-246-22.cust.tele2.it) has joined channel #opers
maxgazebo ciao a tutti
<-- maxgazebo (filippo77@d81-211-246-22.cust.tele2.it) has left channel #opers (Kopete 0.10 : http://kopete.kde.org).

You get the idea. The problem is that most people just want to try out the IRC support in kopete, so they use the wizard, they have no clue of what server to use so they leave the first entry (ARCNet), they search for channels, pick up one with enough users and join.

Which is why I am suggesting to put a default *relevant* IRC server for new users, this isn't something new. Most IRC client supply a default server and default channel. My suggestion would be:

server: irc.freenode.net
channel: #kopete
Comment 3 Matt Rogers 2005-08-05 15:18:02 UTC
ok, now your request makes a lot more sense. Thanks for the explanation.
Comment 4 Will Stephenson 2007-11-14 15:43:34 UTC

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 94568 ***