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          <bug_id>512972</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2025-12-05 09:00:26 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>Flatpak builds of Elisa using the LibVLC backend stutter at the beginning of tracks when playing on a Bluetooth audio output device</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2026-02-20 05:06:25 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>2</classification_id>
          <classification>Applications</classification>
          <product>Elisa</product>
          <component>general</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>Flatpak</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>Linux</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>DUPLICATE</resolution>
          <dup_id>443184</dup_id>
          
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          <keywords></keywords>
          <priority>NOR</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter>svoboda</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Matthieu Gallien">matthieu_gallien</assigned_to>
          <cc>kdedev</cc>
    
    <cc>mathispaquet362</cc>
    
    <cc>mds_foss</cc>
    
    <cc>nate</cc>
          
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    <who name="">svoboda</who>
    <bug_when>2025-12-05 09:00:26 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>SUMMARY
Stutters at the beginning of every track. I like the design but this makes it unusable for me. I have my music collection on a permanently mounted Windows partition. If this would be the reason: No excuse, all other players I tried play my songs without a flaw: VLC, Amarok, Strawberry, Rhythmbox. Tried to use Elisa for months, so updates came through, but didn&apos;t help with the stuttering.

SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS
Operating System: Fedora Linux 43
KDE Plasma Version: 6.5.3
KDE Frameworks Version: 6.20.0
Qt Version: 6.10.1
Kernel Version: 6.17.8-300.fc43.x86_64 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: Wayland
Processors: 8 × 11th Gen Intel® Core™ i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz
Memory: 16 GiB of RAM (15.4 GiB usable)
Graphics Processor: Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics
Manufacturer: Acer
Product Name: Swift SF314-511
System Version: V1.13</thetext>
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    <commentid>2475274</commentid>
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    <who name="Nate Graham">nate</who>
    <bug_when>2025-12-08 21:38:52 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Are you by any chance streaming the audio over Bluetooth?</thetext>
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    <who name="">svoboda</who>
    <bug_when>2025-12-09 14:20:35 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Created attachment 187454
attachment-3461514-0.html

Hi Nate,

yes, I&apos;m streaming over Bluetooth - which works fine with other apps.

Signatur

Am 08.12.25 um 22:38 schrieb Nate Graham:
&gt; https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=512972
&gt;
&gt; Nate Graham&lt;nate@kde.org&gt; changed:
&gt;
&gt;             What    |Removed                     |Added
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&gt;                   CC|                            |nate@kde.org
&gt;
&gt; --- Comment #1 from Nate Graham&lt;nate@kde.org&gt; ---
&gt; Are you by any chance streaming the audio over Bluetooth?
&gt;</thetext>
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    <commentid>2475504</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="Nate Graham">nate</who>
    <bug_when>2025-12-09 15:24:32 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>And it doesn&apos;t happen when the output is a non-Bluetooth local speaker or headphones, right?</thetext>
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    <commentid>2475600</commentid>
    <comment_count>4</comment_count>
      <attachid>187465</attachid>
    <who name="">svoboda</who>
    <bug_when>2025-12-09 19:40:41 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Created attachment 187465
attachment-3557756-0.html

Hi Nate,

I cannot say wether it works without stutter over the notebook speakers. 
I had uninstalled Elisa, annoyed by the bug. No I have reinstalled it 
though not the flatpak but the dnf version instead. And it doesn&apos;t 
stutter over bluetooth! Seems to be an issue in the flatpak package. BTW 
the other apps I tried like Strawberry are flatpaks and work well with 
bluetooth.

Cheers

Markus

Signatur

Am 09.12.25 um 16:24 schrieb Nate Graham:
&gt; https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=512972
&gt;
&gt; --- Comment #3 from Nate Graham&lt;nate@kde.org&gt; ---
&gt; And it doesn&apos;t happen when the output is a non-Bluetooth local speaker or
&gt; headphones, right?
&gt;</thetext>
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    <commentid>2475602</commentid>
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    <who name="Nate Graham">nate</who>
    <bug_when>2025-12-09 19:56:04 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Yep, a colleague of mine confirmed the same thing. Seems to be Flatpak-related indeed.

I can reproduce it with the version on Flathub as well as the version in the KDE nightly Flatpak repo.

The Fedora Flatpak version is fine, interestingly.

A difference is that the Fedora Flatpak version uses the QtMultimedia backend with its own GStreamer backend, while the Flathub/Nightly builds use the LibVLC backend with its own ffmpeg backend.</thetext>
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    <commentid>2496421</commentid>
    <comment_count>6</comment_count>
    <who name="Nate Graham">nate</who>
    <bug_when>2026-02-19 22:58:33 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Looks like this is a known upstream issue that&apos;s already been fixed: https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc-ios/-/issues/1339

Unfortunately it&apos;s only fixed in libvlc 4.0 which has been in development for ages with no clear timeline for a release.

In the meantime, maybe we should switch to the QtMultimedia backend. Or just drop the Libvlc backend and its abstraction later entirely and only rely on QtMultimedia.</thetext>
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    <commentid>2496515</commentid>
    <comment_count>7</comment_count>
    <who name="mydarkstar">mds_foss</who>
    <bug_when>2026-02-20 05:06:25 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Closing in favor of an existing, older bug report.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 443184 ***</thetext>
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