455370 2022-06-15 23:06:38 +0000 Unable to use alternative Window Managers 2024-04-25 14:34:12 +0000 1 1 4 Plasma kwin general 5.25.0 Arch Linux Linux RESOLVED INVALID NOR normal --- 0 adam_tazul kwin-bugs-null adam_tazul Hi-Angel kde kde natalie_clarius skeletonadventure 0 oldest_to_newest 2131650 0 149767 adam_tazul 2022-06-15 23:06:38 +0000 Created attachment 149767 Example script, launching XMonad as the Window Manager SUMMARY (Sorry if this is not in the right section, I'm not 100% sure where this bug falls) In previous versions of KDE Plasma, setting the KDEWM environment variable to another Window Manager on your system would force Plasma to spawn that as the Window Manager in place of Kwin. Since 5.25, no matter what method is used to set the environment variable. STEPS TO REPRODUCE 1. Install and set up an alternative Window Manager of choice for use with KDE Plasma (X11) 2. Set the KDEWM environment variable using a pre-startup script in ~/.config/plasma-workspace/env/ OBSERVED RESULT KDE Plasma spawns Kwin EXPECTED RESULT KDE Plasma spawns the specified Window Manager SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS Linux/KDE Plasma: Arch Linux Rolling, all testing and unstable repo's enabled Kernel version: 5.18.3-arch1-1 (available in About System) KDE Plasma Version: 5.25.0 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.95.0 Qt Version: 5.15.4 ADDITIONAL INFORMATION N/A 2131653 1 adam_tazul 2022-06-15 23:12:07 +0000 (In reply to Adam Tazul from comment #0) > Since 5.25, no matter what method is used to set the environment variable. No matter what is set as KDEWM, it spawn Kwin instead of your WIndow Manager of choice*** 2131654 2 149768 adam_tazul 2022-06-15 23:13:50 +0000 Created attachment 149768 Example .desktop file from /usr/share/xsessions/, launching XMonad as the Window Manager 2131709 3 arojas 2022-06-16 06:38:30 +0000 *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 439481 *** 2132068 4 skeletonadventure 2022-06-17 00:24:25 +0000 (In reply to Antonio Rojas from comment #3) > > *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 439481 *** These are not duplicates, as evidenced by the "steps to reproduce". In 439481 the environment variable KDEWM is not set, in this bug report it has been set, and as described by https://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/Using_Other_Window_Managers_with_Plasma this should result in the specified binary being started instead of Kwin. 2132069 5 skeletonadventure 2022-06-17 00:46:46 +0000 My bad upon further reading, it seems the issues are similar, though still a key difference in the use of systemdboot. I am to assume the KDEWM variable feature been silently removed? 2132100 6 arojas 2022-06-17 06:05:25 +0000 (In reply to skeletonadventure from comment #5) > My bad upon further reading, it seems the issues are similar, though still a > key difference in the use of systemdboot. It's not. You are using systemd boot because that's the default in 5.25. 2134358 7 adam_tazul 2022-06-24 12:45:59 +0000 (In reply to Antonio Rojas from comment #6) > It's not. You are using systemd boot because that's the default in 5.25. Shouldn't the KDEWM environment variable be read when using systemd boot? 2136663 8 kde 2022-07-03 11:00:33 +0000 Defaulting to systemd boot is a regression for any users of custom WMs. The update simply breaks the setup. Also following the tutorial doesn't work anymore: https://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/Using_Other_Window_Managers_with_Plasma If KDEWM variable cannot be supported, there should be at least a guideline on how to use a custom WM with newer Plasma versions. 2144715 9 natalie_clarius 2022-08-10 00:48:25 +0000 Instructions on how to run a custom WM with systemd boot enabled can be found in the Arch wiki: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/KDE#Use_a_different_window_manager TL;DR: Create a systemd user unit for your preferred WM and mask the kwin service. This should be updated on https://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/Using_Other_Window_Managers_with_Plasma. 149767 2022-06-15 23:06:38 +0000 2022-06-15 23:06:38 +0000 Example script, launching XMonad as the Window Manager set_window_manager.sh application/x-shellscript 50 adam_tazul IyEvdXNyL2Jpbi9lbnYgYmFzaAoKZXhwb3J0IEtERVdNPS91c3IvYmluL3htb25hZAo= 149768 2022-06-15 23:13:50 +0000 2022-06-15 23:13:50 +0000 Example .desktop file from /usr/share/xsessions/, launching XMonad as the Window Manager xmonad-kde.desktop application/x-desktop 243 adam_tazul W0Rlc2t0b3AgRW50cnldClZlcnNpb249MS4wClR5cGU9QXBwbGljYXRpb24KTmFtZT1YbW9uYWQg S0RFCkNvbW1lbnQ9TGlnaHR3ZWlnaHQgWDExIHRpbGVkIHdpbmRvdyBtYW5hZ2VyIHdyaXR0ZW4g aW4gSGFza2VsbApFeGVjPWVudiBLREVXTT0vdXNyL2Jpbi94bW9uYWQgc3RhcnRwbGFzbWEteDEx Ckljb249eG1vbmFkClRlcm1pbmFsPWZhbHNlClN0YXJ0dXBOb3RpZnk9ZmFsc2UKQ2F0ZWdvcmll cz1BcHBsaWNhdGlvbjsK