444821 2021-11-02 12:05:52 +0000 Enabling "set date and time automatically" stops "ntpd.service" rather than starting it 2021-11-09 18:16:22 +0000 1 1 2 Applications systemsettings kcm_clock 5.22.5 Manjaro Linux RESOLVED INVALID HI normal --- 1 es20490446e paul nate nicolas.fella plasma-bugs-null 0 oldest_to_newest 2074195 0 es20490446e 2021-11-02 12:05:52 +0000 STEPS TO REPRODUCE: 1. sudo systemctl start ntpd 2. systemctl status ntpd 3. Date & Time -> "Set date and time automatically" 4. systemctl status ntpd RESULT: "ntpd.service" has been deactivated. ADDITIONAL INFO: Same the other way around: activating "ntpd.service" disables the box "set date and time automatically". ROOT CAUSE: In reality the box is only intended to sync the time once. But that's not what the wording suggests, neither it's the most functional thing to do. It should instead enable ntpd. 2075929 1 nate 2021-11-08 17:53:22 +0000 lol can confirm! 2076045 2 nicolas.fella 2021-11-08 21:28:07 +0000 What that checkbox does is control systemd-timesyncd (if available). Presumably systemd-timesyncd disables ntpd when activated since it would be a competing service 2076129 3 nicolas.fella 2021-11-08 23:26:38 +0000 Sorry, slight correction to the above: The checkbox uses the org.freedesktop.timedate1 interface (systemd-timedated) to control the NTP settings. This then activates the configured NTP implementation, which on Manjaro is systemd-timesyncd. So ntpd is still getting replaced in favor of systemd-timesyncd since that's what the system is configured to do 2076130 4 nicolas.fella 2021-11-08 23:28:53 +0000 See https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-timedated.service.html for details on timedated and how to configure which NTP daemon is used 2076346 5 es20490446e 2021-11-09 18:16:22 +0000 Thanks for the info. Very valuable.